hi kieron on page 99 of this thread you have put charles froggatt down as landlord of the old guy in the 1860s but on your pubs page you have got george froggatt as being there..could you confirm which one it was please because as you know i need to check my froggatt line as i am convinced that a member of my froggatts who worked out of digbeth making leg irons ..handcuffs and dog collars also ran the old guy ..thanks keiron below is the info on your pubs page
. They were succeeded by George Froggatt who took over the pub that had reverted to the sign of the Old Guy. He may have been the same George Froggatt who, along with his wife Harriett, kept a beer house in Bishop Street in the early 1850s. If so, he came from a family of metal workers that plied their trade in Digbeth for many years. Several branches of the Froggatt family were involved in steel, brass and wire production in the locality.
George Froggatt had not long settled in before he found out that dealing with the local riff-raff was challenging. In August 1862 he was assaulted by two roughnecks who became violent after refusing to pay for beer served to them.
lol thanks kieron just one last question did you find this info or did you get it from me...if you found it then i am totally convinced that george froggatt is one of my froggatts...below is from your site
Several branches of the Froggatt family were involved in steel, brass and wire production in the locality.
From the Thread...Recollections of Old Birmingham, 1866...