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Digbeth Mineral Water Works and Well

The cattle lairs and slaughter house make sense now, lots of animal bones are being found, i have been working on the area for nearly 6 months now, knocking down another more recent building, it is only now i am finally digging down and it is getting interesting, i will update on here when i can, if/when i do find the well/spring then i will share all on here no problem
 
Lyn
The "road" you mention is just court 17 and the cattle lairs are in the area that is shown as a muddy mess on the google view shown earlier, so presumably is part of the area which Seany is excavating
 
Court 13 is up next to the railway, so presumably water was pumped from the spring to premises in the immediate area, or I suppose several outlets for the spring
 
Lyn
The "road" you mention is just court 17 and the cattle lairs are in the area that is shown as a muddy mess on the google view shown earlier, so presumably is part of the area which Seany is excavating
silly me mike of course it is...im getting carried away now

lyn
 
Parts of the site have already been excavated a few years back and they found lots of interesting things, i am basically digging the bits up that they didnt do, for example under the bvsc bulding we just demolished and also it is likely i will be digging deeper than they did across the whole site so exciting times, the archeaologists have to record everything we find so it will take a while but i reckon i will have the spring found soon
 

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Another sale from 1835. Aris’s.
Well Street/ Allison Street.

Note Lot XII the large piece of land fronting Well Street, with part of Coach Manufactory, also stable, slaughter-house, buildings...

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Thank you Seanyb, this is all so interesting. My ancestors lived in Digbeth in the 1860's and I was told another worked for the mineral water company in Duke St.
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My camera lens needs a clean but some pics of today, very wet
 

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great photos sean...look at those steps they look as though they must have been under the car park...now i can see just how far down you are digging...dont envy you in this weather though

lyn
 
The map is a fire insurance map from the late 1890s. It may be downloaded from


Too large a file to attach, but relevant part is below

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Interesting that a candle factory was also near by, most likely the tallow from the animal waste was utilised for the candle making. Also a Galvanizers which requires a lot of water during the process. It makes sense business's were close to the source of their required materials during the manufacturing process.
 
Re the geological webpage.
The entry for that is a bit peculiar (see below.) It refers to a borehole that was bored by Lightfoot refrigeration, which were the ice stores on digbeth (building still extant)., a little south of the well we are considering , but undoubtedly from the same underground source. However it states that it was bored "around 1918) and failed in 1937, was dry by 1948. However it then quotes water yields for 1899 !! So presumably they had another source from the strata earlier, probably the "Digbeth well"


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From Grace Guide.​

Lightfoot Refrigeration Co​

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1920.

March 1939.

1961.
of Abbeydale Road, Wembley, Middlesex.
1885 Public company incorporated as Linde British Refrigeration Co[1]
Thomas Bell Lightfoot designed an Ammonia-Compression Refrigeration Machine
1890 The company appointed Lightfoot as its Managing Director.
The Company scored a success when the Wellington Meat Export Co. adopted the system on an extended scale for their storage plant. This established an advanced position for the chemical machine, especially on ship board, where the system was adopted with success on the SS. "Perthshire."
1916 Name changed to Lightfoot Refrigeration Company.
1961 Manufacturers of ice making and refrigeration machinery. [2]
 
Hi im sean, im a digger driver, i am working on what is now well lane (beorma quarter) , im digging up what i believe is the site of the old spring and mineral water works, we're already finding interesting finds, (there are archaeologist working with me) i'd love to find old pictures of the buildings and info on the site, im birmingham born and bred and i love my history so its a dream job for me,

i believe i have found a cobbled pathway from court 17 but correct me if im wrong, and i believe the spring was under the big concrete basement we have found

Im digging up more every day so i'll try to find a way of documenting
Interesting, thanks Sean. Which archaeological organisation is the archaeologist from? They should be compiling a publically available report on the work.
 
Headland is the archealogical company on site, i broke a small hole through the main concrete base today and i see bubbles in the water, i think i have the spring, will see monday when i excavate properly
 

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great photos sean...that bottle rings bells with me with the smiley face on..cant be certain but i think it was orange juice...i am no expert but if you are now seeing bubbles it could be the spring...thanks again

lyn
 
great photos sean...that bottle rings bells with me with the smiley face on..cant be certain but i think it was orange juice...i am no expert but if you are now seeing bubbles it could be the spring...thanks again

lyn
Yes you are right Lyn. I think Sunfresh was originally a brand set up to sell Californian (or it might have been Florida) orange juice. It later became a brand in the uk selling carbonated orange drinks (not sure if it then still sold the juice here), and was bought by Schweppes in the 1950s or 60s. Remained with them till Cadbury Schweppes was bought. I am not sure whether coca cola still own it
 
Yes you are right Lyn. I think Sunfresh was originally a brand set up to sell Californian (or it might have been Florida) orange juice. It later became a brand in the uk selling carbonated orange drinks (not sure if it then still sold the juice here), and was bought by Schweppes in the 1950s or 60s. Remained with them till Cadbury Schweppes was bought. I am not sure whether coca cola still own it
thanks mike i am sure in the 60s our milkman used to sell that orange juice from his float

lyn
 
The area is being developed for 2 new skyscraper buildings, as seems all the rage in birmingham now, unfortunately i think all previous obstructions, whatever they may be, will be recorded and removed, to be replaced by stable crush infill, this could be as deep as 8 meters in places i believe, i dont know how we will deal with the spring/borehole but it cant stay where it is, there is probably a modern way to cap it off
 
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