Curzon Street Hotel

[Stokkie]

It would be good to attempt to reconstruct the usage of this site in a chronology. I think the census returns and Historic England's report can be reconciled. I noted your 1851 census returns at the start of this thread which is illuminating.

Rail Engineer wrote an account in 2022.https://www.railengineer.co.uk/the-london-birmingham-railway-curzon-street-station/?nowprocket=1

We can only hope that the existing building is preserved. This is Hardwick's core Principal Building, unfortunately the hotel extension was demolished as 1979-1982 as it was by another architect and held to detract from Hardwick's design.

 

[Astoness]

It would be good to attempt to reconstruct the usage of this site in a chronology. I think the census returns and Historic England's report can be reconciled. I noted your 1851 census returns at the start of this thread which is illuminating.

Rail Engineer wrote an account in 2022.https://www.railengineer.co.uk/the-london-birmingham-railway-curzon-street-station/?nowprocket=1

We can only hope that the existing building is preserved. This is Hardwick's core Principal Building, unfortunately the hotel extension was demolished as 1979-1982 as it was by another architect and held to detract from Hardwick's design.

its a lovely old building derek...lets hope something can be done to hang onto it posting for those who may have missed it the video about the station

lyn

 

[Stokkie]

its a lovely old building derek...lets hope something can be done to hang onto it posting for those who may have missed it the video about the station

lyn

Thanks Lyn, I note the 2017 Act that enabled this section of HS2 included “Old Curzon Street Station building and wall to be retained” This is before the structural issues that paused work on the building. So fingers crossed. Derek

 

[Heartland]

I believe there is little doubt about what was envisaged for the building which is now grade 1 listed and the plans originally included offices
, meeting rooms and refreshment facilities for the building that now stands, but how long, if any, there were offices there remains to be confirmed and it seems that Euston became the principal offices for the company. When construction was under way there were offices in different parts, but cost saving led to Euston being the principal location for several departments.

My fellow RCHS Colleague, John Minnis provided the material for the Historic England site quoting engineer Dockray as responsible for the design of the Extension, but there is an image of the Queens Hotel in the Science Museum Collection that shows the Queens Hotel design as being the extension and the original building.

The 1841 Census also shows a smaller establishment which would coincide with the original structure.

 

[Stokkie]

I believe there is little doubt about what was envisaged for the building which is now grade 1 listed and the plans originally included offices
, meeting rooms and refreshment facilities for the building that now stands, but how long, if any, there were offices there remains to be confirmed and it seems that Euston became the principal offices for the company. When construction was under way there were offices in different parts, but cost saving led to Euston being the principal location for several departments.

My fellow RCHS Colleague, John Minnis provided the material for the Historic England site quoting engineer Dockray as responsible for the design of the Extension, but there is an image of the Queens Hotel in the Science Museum Collection that shows the Queens Hotel design as being the extension and the original building.

The 1841 Census also shows a smaller establishment which would coincide with the original structure.
View attachment 189974

Thank you Heartland. You seemed to want to refer to the existing building as Curzon Street Hotel which is not the conclusion of Historic England. I'm not a rail expert, but pragmatically if we want to preserve the building then I'd say Curzon Street Station would carry more weight. Alas Grade 1 listing doesn't give absolute protection to destruction or development. Derek

 

[Heartland]

That sadly is the case and the existing building is not immune from alteration or a "crooked house" solution.
Having escorted people around both the existing and demolished buildings when I worked at Curzon Street PCD, it would be sad to see any serious change.