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Bull Ring until 1920s

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Stitcher

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Thanks for that Vivienne and Mike. I am getting down these pieces of paper/pages now but a lot of what is left does not have much info with it.
 

Old Boy

master brummie
Hi All,
Referring to the photo at 125 and Vivs' comment at 126 I think that this is a penny farthing cycle. I doubt if it belonged to the old chap leaning over the water trough however.. A pity that the back wheel is hidden by the trough .
Old Boy
 

Radiorails

master brummie
The drawing of St. Martins (1812) is has all the appearance of the church in 1812. The tower was rebuilt later but in 1873 rebuilding of the main structure commenced giving, more or less, what can be seen today.
 

mikejee

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That's strange. Have searched for "Bull Ring" in Illustrated London News nd cannot find it at all. the search gives 92 hits. One shows a closr view of St Matins, with the Bull ring in front, but this picture did not turn up. Would have searched for St Martin's , but that gave over 1000 hits
 

mikejee

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I'm sure it is a reasonable representation, as the book on the St Martins excavations includes it and describes it as st martins in 1812
 

Vivienne14

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Revpost #140. Here's a photo of the page on the Getty Images site. It says the image aappeared in the Illustrated London News on 26 March 1887. Don't know why they give January 01 1887 at the start of the paragraph as well. Viv.

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mikejee

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Looking closely it seems that the British Newspaper website is missing a number of issues around then, including that one
 

Vivienne14

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A Paul Braddon painting of the Bull Ring - not painted at the time depicted in the painting, but an interesting view showing the position of the Market Cross. Also below is the modern day view. Viv.

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Vivienne14

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Found this in the Birmingham Buses thread posted by Lloyd. Can someone date this please ? It’s an early solid tyre bus. Look at those crowds - no way will they’ll all fit inside that bus ! Let’s hope another comes along soon. Viv

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Radiorails

master brummie
The bus looks rather like a Midland Red one of 1919. Most of the people seem to be looking at the bus, suggesting the bus might be there for a specific route avoiding the greater number of waiting passengers as it is parked away from the kerb (not unusual in the Bull Ring). The crowds could well be awaiting buses to take them to Stratford upon Avon maybe it was a Bank Holiday? The curious think is that there seems to be quite a few queues or groups, some to the left others to the right. However, considering Stratford upon Avon I would add that Moor Street GW railway station was nearby and they conveed many to Stratford upon Avon on Bank Holidays: I did the journey by train a few times, usually from Shirley or Wythall (Grimes Hill).
I wondered if it was a special charter bring someone to the city, hence the crowds, but the bus does have a destination board which could rule out that line of thought.
Maybe there will be some other more definite information and not become one of our 'loose ends'. ;)
 

Deanlea

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Hi guys if you are interested in the life of the bull ring and its formation going back to the 1700.s
And how it formed may I suggest you buy the book by victor , j Pryce its called
The bull ring remembered its starts from the early days of the old area as it was with the building of the oriniginal bull ring
With maps and listing of pubs and and pictures and the parishes and the abbitairs
There was twenty five pubs in all with there named changed and of the old streets before changing and of the slum clearance to make way for a bull ring
In the 1600 s and most of the pubs of the twenty five have gone but there is still one or two left from that era. Today and listing of pub owners far back in the 1800 s
There are names of people whom was first to by a bussineess with in the bull ring
One was Mr c, green, and sons, no, 10 bullring, :) openened by Cornelius green :) in 1895. And closed in 1934 they had a assistant
Fred tullett,this shop opened in the 19 the century and was there for many years
They specialized in leather goods, boxing gloves , footballs, purses , cases for travelling, all were made on the premises
One year Mr green made a 6 ft high leather foot ball , and the police borrowed. This for there their sports day in Aston park
Police on horse back played football with it
At the rear of the premises was a court yard , known as golden court, it had 4 cottages and a lodging house called pump lodgings
This was run by a Mr Davis , he used to take in tramps and charged them 2 pence per night ,
In those days they were gentlemen and whom could be trusted, in the centre of the court yard was a a water pump,
One of many errected in the area for the supply of water,
In his younger days, sir Adrian Cedric boult,the well known musician. ,rented a room in the court yard to practice,
He was the founder. Of the.BBC symphony orchestra. 1930. To 1950. He was born in 1889 and died in 1983
There was interesting aspect of these premises is,that under the premises, leading off the cellar was a tunnel leading to st martins church
It is not known why this tunnel was originally built but,it could have been an escape route from the churches,
Just like Aston hall the story of Aston parish church tunnel excistances how many more possible church tunnels exist
I have heard the story of the one in st Paul's in the st Paul's square and there drawing on the wall under ground from the moastry to across to the church tunnel
I sincerelyreomend this book of the bull ring remembered and its written by victor , j , Pryce and incidently there is a picture of him in it in is choir out fit
Best wishes astonian,,,,,,,
Re C.Green & Son, here is a whistle sold by them soon after 1895. It was made by Hudson & Co and is possibly the only whistle sold by a shop based on the Bull Ring.
 

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Sugar

master brummie
It's good to see the old shoe shop in the photo .the photo must of been taken between 1875 (that's when the company started) Freeman hardy & Willis then changed it's name to Freeman Hardy Willis in 1929 and before anyone queries the dates I got all the information off wikipedia.
 
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