Mudpie77, when I bought my last house in Erdington in 1962 there was an old shed in the garden and I found a number of old stone jars (which I still have) in there, two of them have the following inscriptions printed on them (1) G.L.Trickett, Botanical Brewer, Goldthorne Hill, Wolverhampton dated 1916 and (2) T.Saxon and Co., Botanical Brewers, Balsall Heath Rd, Birmingham dated 1914 if it is of any interest. They both contained liquid which smelt like wine vinegar. Eric