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Birmingham black and white in the rain.

john knight

signman
Taken 24-11-2019.
 

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Astoness

TRUE BRUMMIE MODERATOR
Staff member
lovely photos john...must say i do like the black and whites and thanks for taking the time to pop to st philips to see if little nanette stockers head stone was still there....it was thought it had been removed..so pleased it has not...i will post it on the nanette stoker thread..

lyn
 

Bob Davis

Bob Davis
Now how do I get out of this, superb pictures John they present the subject starkly all edges and definition the colour pictures of the tram again superb, have a mellower, softer feel, your tram black and white, an example of modern engineering. As for the bull, brilliant you can feel and see its power. Having said all this, I like both B and W and colour and now I will shut up and just admire and appreciate the artistry of all you photographers. Was this film or digital?

Bob
 

Pedrocut

Master Barmmie
Now how do I get out of this, superb pictures John they present the subject starkly all edges and definition the colour pictures of the tram again superb, have a mellower, softer feel, your tram black and white, an example of modern engineering. As for the bull, brilliant you can feel and see its power. Having said all this, I like both B and W and colour and now I will shut up and just admire and appreciate the artistry of all you photographers. Was this film or digital?

Bob
“There is more joy in heaven....” keep them comments coming Bob!
 

farmerdave

master brummie
Yes, superb pictures of Birmingham buildings in the rain. I like those particularly where there is some human interest e.g. people in front of St. Martins Church and Baskerville House. It did make me think that if we looked at photos of the Town Hall or Council House for each decade since say 1900 then we might not see all that much difference. However, we know from comments about old photographs on the Forum that if we had 10-20 people in front of either of these buildings, during the same time period, then there would be discussions on what they were wearing, what their activity was, could there have been some event on, etc. Question is whether including people in the photograph adds or detracts if it is intended to be mainly a photograph of a building? Dave.
 

Radiorails

master brummie
Without people in photographs they have a somewhat sterile appearance - rather like an estate agents photo. ;)
The apparel worn by those people in the photograph are just as much part of the history of the time of the photograph as the buildings and other structures. Townscapes give a good idea of an era and it has to be remembered that with every industry there were very many people - sometimes thousands - that were working there.
 

Richarddye

master brummie
Now how do I get out of this, superb pictures John they present the subject starkly all edges and definition the colour pictures of the tram again superb, have a mellower, softer feel, your tram black and white, an example of modern engineering. As for the bull, brilliant you can feel and see its power. Having said all this, I like both B and W and colour and now I will shut up and just admire and appreciate the artistry of all you photographers. Was this film or digital?

Bob
Great question Bob! I'm sure there are many of us that want to know that...….thank you for asking!
 

Morturn

Super Moderator
I don't think there a right or wrong way to photograph landscape, it's what works for you. I did once set out to photograph the town centre without people a few years ago, just as a project.
 

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Morturn

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Bob Davis

Bob Davis
Another superb set of pictures, doesn't the bull look more threatening in Black & White, fiercer, starker, glowering. People in photographs is a personal thing. if you want a picture of the Hall of Memory, the Library or the council offices, and you want the building, you do not want people in the way. If your picture is just general interest then people (as long as they are unobtrusive) are welcome, they add to the context of the picture. With both John's and Morturn's pictures, and Elliott's Metro they are of the place, the building, the machine and the bull, people are not needed. Pictures depicting streets now, people and vehicles are handy because they can date the picture and that has been commented on many times with some of the pictures on the forum. If you look at old postcards, most of them were animated because the photographer wanted to give substance to his picture where it was a street scene, but floral clocks in parks, the sea lapping the beach, the mountain range and the wooded glade, keep the people out because it is the view that sells the card. I could bore you with the history and development of the picture postcard, which is barely 120 years old and was black and white or sepia until the late 1920s and remember most postcard publishers were also photographers in the early days or they linked with a local printer to publish as a postcard the photographs of the crash of the traction engine, now lying on its side in a country lane to sell to the locals to send off to their friends and relatives....Such a card does exist, not relevant to Birmingham but now selling at £150.00 in a dealers box. The important thing is the forum seems to be blessed with some superb photographers who(unlike the writer, who is the butt of a family joke about photos of a flock of flamingos at Disneyworld, Florida), are producing pictures which I am sure in years to come will be of historical value. Anyway nowadays there is probably some law against capturing people you do not know on your photograph with GDPR (The new data protection act0 seemingly ruling our lives even more than elfnsafety. Just keep snapping away all of you and remember amongst the worthies on the forum is the colourist Old Mohawk who will turn Black & White to colour at the twitch of a mouse.
Bob
 
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