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Birchfield Road Perry Barr

Big Gee

master brummie
Guys, I think you may well be correct about that first photo being Wellington Road....I did say my memory is very vague. I do remember Toy's Chemist - in fact, I was going to ask what was on the corner of Birchfield Rd and Wellington Rd before the 'new'(?) C&C was built, but you've answered it for me.
I definitely remember having an eye-test at Brooks Opticians, and I do remember, slightly more vaguely, walking past the opticians and the car-lot with my Mom as we made our way to the station.
However, thinking about it, I would guess that Mom, who was a very, very cautious person, may well have crossed Birchfield Rd on the library side of the crossroads with Wellington Rd, then walked down Wellington Rd a short distance to where it was easier to cross. This was all nearly 65 years ago, don't forget. What I would say, though, is that the small pub on Birchfield Rd opposite today's C&C (for want of a better description) was definitely called The C&C at one time - my dad used it on Saturday lunch-times in the 1970's and I sometimes went to collect him and have a quick 'un myself. There again, memory does tend to play tricks with one....

Great thread, though. I love seeing old pics of 'my' area when I was a nipper - a good old working-class neighbourhood that was ripped apart.

G
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
A sunny day in Birchfield Rd between Trinity Rd and Six Ways. A No 6 tram with no adverts on it and a Midland Red FEDD following it in the distance.
No6 Tram Birchfield Rd.JPG
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
Hi Lyn, there was no date with the photo but the No 6 Perry Barr tram route closed in 1949 so the photo must have been taken before that date.
Phil
 

badpenny

Deleted Upon Request
Would we have a map showing whereabouts number 296 would be, although i believe it is now long gone.

thank you..
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
At the terminus on Birchfield Rd the trams stood in the middle of the road with traffic passing both sides. Some interesting things in this pic ... a Vee shaped object on the wire above the tram, a 'two tone' Bundy Clock, and what look like flags hanging on the pub. The tram conductress appears to be having a chat to the right of the clock and two women sitting on the tram's front balcony seat. Maybe a tram expert will know what the Vee shaped object is.
TramTerminusBirchfieldRd.jpg
 

Di.Poppitt

master brummie
Phil the land in Normandy road where the cricket match was being played is, on the later map, interestingly still green. How has that happened when so much land of inner cities has been used for housing?
The traffic jam on Birchfield Road shows only one half of the picture. We lived in Stoneleigh Road, which runs parallel to Birchfield Road, as I walked home from work at ICI I walked past a line of cars usually at a stand still. I regularly had a chat to my husbands cousin who sat in his 'Bubble' car on his way home to Sutton.
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
This photo is in the 'A few Trams for a Change' thread and shows two trams queuing to get to the terminus. The library can be seen and the Birchfield cinema and if we could see what film was on we could have dated the photo but it looks to be just after the end of WW2. I can see at least five buses in the view which gives some idea of the traffic jams in those far off days. (linked image only visible if logged in)
 
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Ray Griffiths

master brummie
At the terminus on Birchfield Rd the trams stood in the middle of the road with traffic passing both sides. Some interesting things in this pic ... a Vee shaped object on the wire above the tram, a 'two tone' Bundy Clock, and what look like flags hanging on the pub. The tram conductress appears to be having a chat to the right of the clock and two women sitting on the tram's front balcony seat. Maybe a tram expert will know what the Vee shaped object is.
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The angle piece over the wire is to hide the sparking when they run the current pickup pole round and engage with the power line, if you look it is inline with windows in pub.
The clue is the bundy clock the tram would be stopped at that point following it's journey from city it should have pulled up a bit further to locate . It was possibly installed during the war to prevent aircraft seeing the flash when changing direction at night
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
Thanks Ray, the tram is standing at the terminus and I remember the conductors/conductresses had to pull the collector pole down and walk round in traffic to get it back on the wire and I thought it might have been some sort of guidance system to save them having to fiddle with it at the same time as watching out for cars and bikes etc. I don't think it remained there long because I have never seen it in other pics.
oldmohawk ...:)
 

Simon4130

master brummie
Photo in #430 is very definitely taken during WW2 or very soon after it ended as confirmed by the V canopy over the wiring, white bumper on the tram and the white painted base of the Bundy clock.

I would agree the photo in #433 is soon after the war ended as the BCT buses have the darker roofs introduced during the war but nothing seems to have blackout headlamps still fitted.

Two great photos.

Simon
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
The No 6 Perry Barr tram service ended in 1949 and 4 years later in March 1953 they were taking up the tracks.
TramTracksGoing.jpg
 

fiftiesboy

proper brummie kid
Hi Oldmohawk. Never heard of those before. Can't say I'm totally surprised they had a short life! How on earth could they've been regarded as safe? Bus failures must have been a common winter sight on the hill near the Golden Hind. I've been on the # 29 bus, going towards Hawthorn Rd in bad weather and seen the the buses just refusing to go up the hill. It was quicker to walk. Must have been a bit of a nightmare for bus drivers. Viv.
They weren't safe. I don't remember them but my Mother did tell me about a lad from our road who was killed in Perry Barr. He waited for the bus to pass and dashed across the road to be run over by the trailer
 

Di.Poppitt

master brummie
The tram lines had a lot to answer for, how many cyclists got their front wheels stuck in them. But on a dark foggy night, or even day when the fog was at its worst, how many of us followed them to get us home when the bus's wern't running.
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
nice pic phil...now where on that route was it taken ..looks like a pub on the left but it rings no bells with me and i dont think its birchfield road...

lyn
Hi Lyn, I thought it was Birchfield Road by Chain Walk. The road was narrow there and the tram track went to single line as shown on the map below. Also, what I think is the pub is shown on the map although marked as a hotel. I could however be wrong and maybe other members can comment.

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