Ward -Frederick and Emma (nee Fleet)

[Astoness]

Not great writing, Frederick's father occupation appears to be carpenter maybe. And address for both Frederick and Emma appears to be same, so possibly an address of convenience.

yes mark carpenter it is...emmas joseph dad is a shoe maker..add is difficult at first i thought it said formans road but not sure

 

[MWS]

I think maybe St Andrews Street?

 

[Astoness]

I think maybe St Andrews Street?

yes mark its definately st andrews street...they married at st andrews church which is on st andrews st so it all fits nicely

lyn

 

[Clareybear]

They lived at 23 6 Court Watery Lane, Bordesley the year after marriage in 1881 census if that possible matches?

 

[Clareybear]

Also Emma seems to be the illegitimate daughter of a Sarah Ann Fleet. Joseph Fleet, shoe maker, being Emma's grandfather.

Yes this is true.

 

[MWS]

They lived at 23 6 Court Watery Lane, Bordesley the year after marriage in 1881 census if that possible matches?

Close, St Andrew's St ran into St Andrew's Road at the end of which was Watery Lane.

 

[pjmburns]

Don't think there's anyway to tell unless you pay the £1.50.

Closest relatives (unless I missed something) would be cousins - 2 daughters of Mabel, 6 children of Bertha, ? children of Daisy, any children of Frederick or Ethel and cousins from his father's side. So potentially quite a few.

Names leading to Frederick or Ethel would be good but probably unlikely.

It says "administration" which I think means there was no will. If there is a will then I think the word "probate" would appear.

 

[MWS]

Thanks, I've never noticed that before.

 

[pjmburns]

Thanks, I've never noticed that before.

I only realised last week when I sent for, as I thought, 2 wills, - when I got them one was a letter of admnistration (very revealing ) but no will. when I clicked to download the will I got this entry. When I checked it did just say "administration".

For the second I did get a Will as well as letters of probate. So I checked and that did say probate.

 

[MWS]

Not really relevant but Denis's father appears to have had 5 brother and a sister. And it seems 1 brother died young, 1 brother and the sister didn't marry and 1 brother married but had no children. The other 2 brothers did marry and have children (9 in total), so cousins on both sides.

 

[Clareybear]

Hi,
I apologise for the delay, I was waiting for an email to say the Will was ready but didn't receive one. I logged on and found it in my account.
The inheritance was left to a member of his fathers side (Salter) who has since passed away.

 

[Davenport]

Hello,
I am looking for descendants of Frederick and Emma Ward circa 1860
Their children were Albert, Arthur, Ernest, Frederick, Bertha, Daisy, Emma, Ethel, Lily, Mabel
They lived in Aston, Bordesley and Harbourne.
I'm struggling to find much info on most of them.

Thanks,
Clare

Hello Clare. My Granduncle, Wilson George Meddings b.1887. Married Mabel L Ward b.19-12-1893 ( parents Frederick & Emma) in 1918 at West Bromwich. They had two children, Desiree b.1920 & Honore b.1922 .