help needed on humphrys family birmingham

[BlueTVman1]

Hi,
My everyone ... my name is Francis Humphreys, and I have been researching my Family Tree on Ancestry.com for a few years now. The Tree has grown to over 7000 people!
Most (if not ALL) I have their Birth, Marriage & Death details completed...
There are just FOUR PEOPLE left to find.... (DEATH AND/OR MARRIAGE DETAILS)
Is it possible you could help with these please??

1. ISABELLA HUMPHREYS 1886
2. LAVINIA HUMPHREYS 1871 (SPELT HUMPHRIES)
   (POSSIBLY "MARRIED" TO WILLIAM WOODWARD BUT CANT FIND ANY RECORD OF THE MARRIAGE)
   (LAST OFFICIAL RECORD BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF MAYNARD WOODWARD 1906)
3. ELIZABETH HUMPHREYS 1878
4. EMILY HUMPHREYS 1876

Kind regards
Francis Humphreys
Queensland, Australia.

 

[williamjukes]

Good afternoon Francis

Unfortunately Isabella's birth certificate has been duplicated instead of a copy of Elizabeths birth certificate.

Could you possibly post Elizabeth's birth record.

William.

 

[Astoness]

hi francis and welcome...hopefully we can help you but as william said could you please post the birth certificate for elizabeth as you duplicated isabellas...also i am moving this thread from forum rules to our surname interests section of the forum i will also edit the thread title to read humphrys family birmingham..

lyn

 

[BlueTVman1]

Hi,
My everyone ... my name is Francis Humphreys, and I have been researching my Family Tree on Ancestry.com for a few years now. The Tree has grown to over 7000 people!
Most (if not ALL) I have their Birth, Marriage & Death details completed...
There are just FOUR PEOPLE left to find.... (DEATH AND/OR MARRIAGE DETAILS)
Is it possible you could help with these please??

1. ISABELLA HUMPHREYS 1886
2. LAVINIA HUMPHREYS 1871 (SPELT HUMPHRIES)
   (POSSIBLY "MARRIED" TO WILLIAM WOODWARD BUT CANT FIND ANY RECORD OF THE MARRIAGE)
   (LAST OFFICIAL RECORD BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF MAYNARD WOODWARD 1906)
3. ELIZABETH HUMPHREYS 1878
4. EMILY HUMPHREYS 1876

Kind regards
Francis Humphreys
Queensland, Australia.

 

[BlueTVman1]

THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH (in advance) for taking the time to help solve my puzzles!
The HUMPHREYS family were from Aston in Birmingham (we even had a relative play for ASTON VILLA!!)
They moved around a bit (Up to HULL, down to Grantham THEN BACK to Birmingham) and the problems started when my Great Grandfathers wife (CHARLOTTE INSHAW 1849-1889 died)

https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/tree/58290248?cfpid=122423599867

FRANCIS HUMPHREYS AND MARIA MOORE FAMILY TREE

 

[Astoness]

are you able to post us the birth cert for elizabeth please

lyn

 

[BlueTVman1]

are you able to post us the birth cert for elizabeth please

lyn

 

[BlueTVman1]

THANK YOU (in advance) for your help.... we even CAME OVER to the U.K. last year to visit Birmingham Library (and a few cemeteries) to look for clues!! Lol
No luck though.... :-(

 

[BlueTVman1]

Good afternoon Francis

Unfortunately Isabella's birth certificate has been duplicated instead of a copy of Elizabeths birth certificate.

Could you possibly post Elizabeth's birth record.

William.

 

[Astoness]

thanks francis leave it with us...i did notice that on the birth certs you have provided charlottes maiden name is sometimes down as inshaw and sometimes henshaw..like i said i am sure one or two of us will have a go at tracing them..i will start by looking for charles and charlotte on the 1881 census as should be with 3 of their children..
would you have the year born for charles and charlotte and where born ?

lyn

 

[Astoness]

i have found a possible marr for elizabeth to a henry roads but its in london...age is right and name of father fits...on the 1901 census they are living in london with daughter elizabeth aged 2 and i have a death for mother elizabeth roads in 1907 aged just 28.....must add this is only a possible..below is the marriage cert..click to enlarge then click on the spy glass to enlarge more

i also have charlotte and charles on the 1881 census at 225 wattville street handsworth birmingham living with 6 children

children are..lavinia but looks more like it says revina age 10..alice 8...rose hannah 6..emily 4..elizabeth 2..charles 10 months...note that there is no sign of daughter isobella on this census so its possible that she died young....i have found a death for rose hannah cooper maiden name humphreys born 26th sept 1874.. buried at witton cemetery in 1950..there is a photograph of her headstone on ancestry


lyn

 

[BlueTVman1]

thanks francis leave it with us...i did notice that on the birth certs you have provided charlottes maiden name is sometimes down as inshaw and sometimes henshaw..like i said i am sure one or two of us will have a go at tracing them..i will start by looking for charles and charlotte on the 1881 census as should be with 3 of their children..
would you have the year born for charles and charlotte and where born ?

lyn

 

[BlueTVman1]

i have found a possible marr for elizabeth to a henry roads but its in london...age is right and name of father fits...on the 1901 census they are living in london with daughter elizabeth aged 2 and i have a death for mother elizabeth roads in 1907 aged just 28.....must add this is only a possible..below is the marriage cert..click to enlarge then click on the spy glass to enlarge more

i also have charlotte and charles on the 1881 census at 225 wattville street handsworth birmingham living with 6 children

children are..lavinia but looks more like it says revina age 10..alice 8...rose hannah 6..emily 4..elizabeth 2..charles 10 months...note that there is no sign of daughter isobella on this census so its possible that she died young....i have found a death for rose hannah cooper maiden name humphreys born 26th sept 1874.. buried at witton cemetery in 1950..there is a photograph of her headstone on ancestry


lyn

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Thanks Lyn,
I saw that reference... so... ordered her Death certificate (enclosed) ..."Mother LOUISA HUMPHREYS put me off that clue... (also father CHARLES HUMPHREYS is listed as a "CARMAN"... But (in the Marriage Certificate to new wife ELIZABETH EVANS) he is listed as a "DIE SINKER" (like previous entries)
But I do agree SHE is the "nearest fit" I could find....

 

[BlueTVman1]

thanks francis leave it with us...i did notice that on the birth certs you have provided charlottes maiden name is sometimes down as inshaw and sometimes henshaw..like i said i am sure one or two of us will have a go at tracing them..i will start by looking for charles and charlotte on the 1881 census as should be with 3 of their children..
would you have the year born for charles and charlotte and where born ?

lyn

 

[Astoness]

thanks for those extra certs francis and i agree that that marr we both found in london is unlikely..........are you on ancestry so that you can see the photo of rose hannahs headstone ? witton cem is only round the corner from me and i have quite a few rellies buried there...also noticed that on charles death cert his daughter charlotte was present at death..i dont have a record of daughter charlottes birth ? edit its ok i have found daughter charlotte on the 71 census..she was born in 1868 looks like she was first born

lyn

 

[BlueTVman1]

thanks for those extra certs francis and i agree that that marr we both found in london is unlikely..........are you on ancestry so that you can see the photo of rose hannahs headstone ? witton cem is only round the corner from me and i have quite a few rellies buried there...also noticed that on charles death cert his daughter charlotte was present at death..i dont have a record of daughter charlottes birth ? edit its ok i have found daughter charlotte on the 71 census..she was born in 1868 looks like she was first born

lyn

Dear Lyn,
You are finding things it took me MONTHS to find! ha! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
YES, Ive seen Rose Hannahs Headstone... Its on my Ancestry Page

https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/tree/58290248/family?cfpid=122485428204

 

[BlueTVman1]

Dear Lyn,
You are finding things it took me MONTHS to find! ha! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
YES, Ive seen Rose Hannahs Headstone... Its on my Ancestry Page

https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/tree/58290248/family?cfpid=122485428204

CHARLOTTE (like ALL the HUMPHREYS characters - past and present - are very interesting.... - had THREE children with her husband WILLIAM H WHALE 1865-1896 - THEN lived with his brother (after husband died) had FOUR children with him (JOSEPH WHALE 1856-1929) THEN married JOHN RAYBOULD in 1905.

 

[Astoness]

Dear Lyn,
You are finding things it took me MONTHS to find! ha! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
YES, Ive seen Rose Hannahs Headstone... Its on my Ancestry Page

https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/tree/58290248/family?cfpid=122485428204

always happy to help especially when members have done so much already and hit brick walls and it does no harm if others can verify your research..so what would you like us to concentrate on now...maybe trying to find a marriage/death for elizabeth born 1878 we cant be certain she married can we ? i like to do one thing at a time before moving on as it confuses me if do to much before moving on

lyn

 

[BlueTVman1]

thanks for those extra certs francis and i agree that that marr we both found in london is unlikely..........are you on ancestry so that you can see the photo of rose hannahs headstone ? witton cem is only round the corner from me and i have quite a few rellies buried there...also noticed that on charles death cert his daughter charlotte was present at death..i dont have a record of daughter charlottes birth ? edit its ok i have found daughter charlotte on the 71 census..she was born in 1868 looks like she was first born

lyn

https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/tree/58290248/family?cfpid=122485428204

on Ancestry as FRANCIS HUMPHREYS & MARIA MOORE family tree.
MARIA MOORE 1881-1935 is my paternal Grandmother (ANOTHER LONG STORY! Ha!) she married THOMAS HUMPHREYS 1888-1929 (my Paternal Grandfather) he was the youngest brother of HANNAH ROSE, ELIZABETH, ISABELA etc

 

[BlueTVman1]

always happy to help especially when members have done so much already and hit brick walls and it does no harm if others can verify your research..so what would you like us to concentrate on now...maybe trying to find a marriage/death for elizabeth born 1878 we cant be certain she married can we ? i like to do one thing at a time before moving on as it confuses me if do to much before moving on

lyn

Finding Elizabeth would be AMAZING!!!