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William Street-1851

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Nicola C

proper brummie kid
Good morning everyone.
I am researching a family member on ancestry and have found a street name on an 1851 census from Birmingham. I have attached a photo (marked with a red circle). It states Thomas Cardall and his wife were living at William Street, I believe (from looking at the family above them) that it says 'Hackers' or 'Hackels' building but I cannot find any more information on this, the census states it was in the Birmingham St Thomas area of Birmingham.

If anyone could shed any light on this I would appreciate the assistance. Thanks for your time
Nicky
 

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hi nicola there was a william st in lozells area and one in st thomas area which was just off broad st city centre...i think we have a thread for it with some old photos.. click on link below to take you to the thread


William Street City Centre

These photos below are from the Shoothill site and are marked as William Street Birmingham. (Edit. For William Street in Lozells please see this thread https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/william-street-lozells.24865/page-3#post-606145) Numbers 100, 101 and 104 William St...
birminghamhistory.co.uk birminghamhistory.co.uk

lyn
 
Astoness said:
hi nicola there was a william st in lozells area and one in st thomas area which was just off broad st city centre...i think we have a thread for it with some old photos.. click on link below to take you to the thread


William Street City Centre

These photos below are from the Shoothill site and are marked as William Street Birmingham. (Edit. For William Street in Lozells please see this thread https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/william-street-lozells.24865/page-3#post-606145) Numbers 100, 101 and 104 William St...
birminghamhistory.co.uk birminghamhistory.co.uk

lyn
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Thankyou so much Lyn
 
It can be tricky to find named buildings, especially early ones. The name can change or just disappear and the earliest map you're likely to get names on is not until 1890.

You can try to narrow it down by looking to see what numbers they come between or seeing if any residents of the buildings are on the next census on the same street with a slightly different but corresponding address.
 
The 1850 Post Office Directory says that William Street started at Islington, (near Five Ways)

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Thread here shows White Horse PH at 98 William St, plus 100-104 William St

William Street City Centre

These photos below are from the Shoothill site and are marked as William Street Birmingham. (Edit. For William Street in Lozells please see this thread https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/william-street-lozells.24865/page-3#post-606145) Numbers 100, 101 and 104 William St...
birminghamhistory.co.uk birminghamhistory.co.uk

Map here showing numbering of William St

William Street City Centre

These photos below are from the Shoothill site and are marked as William Street Birmingham. (Edit. For William Street in Lozells please see this thread https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/william-street-lozells.24865/page-3#post-606145) Numbers 100, 101 and 104 William St...
birminghamhistory.co.uk birminghamhistory.co.uk
 
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There appear to be 8 families living in Hackets/Harkers Buildings in 1851 and of these 8 families 2 of them - Thomas' widow, Mary, & Samuel Ward - still seem to be on William St in 1861 and they seem to be in court 2, which appears to have 8 families in total also. Probably needs a little more checking but here's a map of court 2 from 1890...

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looking through a couple of pages of the 51 it looks like it says hackers building to me..as said thomas and mary were living there with their 2 children thomas aged 5 and mary aged 2

burial....thomas was buried at st martins church in 1859 aged 41

lyn
 
There is an entry for St Martin's
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but there also seems to be an entry at Witton
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Is this where some burials were moved to ?
 
yes i posted the st martins burial jan and it would need checking but i seem to recall reading that a lot of st martins burial were moved to witton..has to be the same person

lyn
 
MWS said:
It can be tricky to find named buildings, especially early ones. The name can change or just disappear and the earliest map you're likely to get names on is not until 1890.

You can try to narrow it down by looking to see what numbers they come between or seeing if any residents of the buildings are on the next census on the same street with a slightly different but corresponding address.
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Thanks so much
 
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