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Sheldon shops

Westley brook meandered all over the parkland now used sometimes as a fairground next to the Coventry Road. I remember hunting for 'tiddlers' right over by the Barrows Lane side. There were some sort of flat eel that would wriggle through the marshy area there.
On the subject of shops, going along the north side of Coventry Road heading out of town there was a branch of the Birmingham Municipal Bank in a wooden building not far from the brook bridging. There were a pair of shops, one called Caves, that sold china. Before the Wells Green parade was built I don't think there were any shops until the Wheatsheaf junction. On the corner, before Woolworth's and Barclay's bank were built was the Co-Op greencrocers, a very cold shed, more like an old-fashioned garden centre. Across Sheaf Lane there was a branch of Dewhurst's. It had a cashier's cubicle on the opposite side to the serving counter so the butchers didn't handle cash. Shakespeare's had a single shop unit on the same parade. They sold newspapers there but also a lot of toys. My dad ordered Triang train and Meccano items from them for special Christmas presents! On the other side of Coventry Road was the main Shakespeare's. They handled deliveries of newspapers and magazines like Readers' Digest and Argosy(?), oh, and our comics! On the other side of Coventry Road was the main shopping parade. Steed's sold ice cream and roasted peanuts from a little illuminated heated stand. If you asked for a block of ice cream ( two shillings or two and six) you never knew if he had one as there were two small rubber lids that were hinged on the outer edges that covered the tiny opening to the freezer. Mr Steed would rake about and hopefuly produce what was wanted. Nearer the Coalway Avenue end was Taylor's the grocers. They had glass-lidded biscuit bins by the chrome rails that many shops had for supporting housewives shopping baskets. On the other side of the shop were the red painted coffee grinder and the bacon slicer, a fascinating machine with all its fastenings and moving bed that carried the meat. Nearby was Clark's ironmongers. There were two Mr Clarks, one the owner. They weren't related. They stocked Aladdin Pink paraffin that we used for heating in the bedroom or the garage. Right on the corner was Munday's, the toy shop, the times I must have spent looking in those windows, (one on each road). On the opposite corner was a garage and beyond that an empty field that backed onto Goldthorne Avenue's odd-numbers gulley. That was where we held our Coronation event. I was dressed up as The Muffin Man, from the nursery rhyme. Captain Harris, St. Giles' superintendent, lent me his handbell. Each child on our road received a bible that my dad carefully labelled inside with their name.
 
Remember the Large Shakespeares very well, Had a paper round from there. It also had a very good bookshop. The Shakespeares on the other side had a good collection of Corgi toys, as well as Airfix Kits. There was also a Halfords and a Foster Brothers further up on this side.
 
Dinky, Corgi, Matchbox, Airfix and Triang/Hornby had catalogues that we could browse through and find toys that we hope to afford! I don't think there is anything comparable now, certainly not as widely available. Halfords certainly had a branch on the 'old' parade but I don't think Foster Brothers were ever there, they had the corner shop on the new parade. Near to Steed's was a small drapers, Maynard's. I didn't like the smell and all the wool inside gave it a very 'dead' acoustic. One good memory was getting little cardboard bears with a set of four legs arranged as spokes so that you could make them 'walk'. They were a promotional item for Bear Brand stockings. Over the years probably all of the shop units have changed hands, I am trying to recall some of the (to me) older ones. The Midland Bank and The Post Office near to Coalway Avenue were probably some of the oldest units. The Post Office had wire screens in front of the main counter but the parcel counter was open. Near the narrow gulley was a small shop that sold us 'Fairy' soap bars shaped like a locomotive and carriages. The same shop had torches with a dog's face on the end. That seems a strange mix now! Perhaps the shop changed owners? It might have been something to do with electrics or cycle accessories. The soap might have come from Clark's which was probably next door. When the new parade was built we children thought it was fantastic as the frontages were fully paved and ideal for roller skating. The old parade had a very gritty frontage which made skating very hard. We would race down the new parade and then swing in towards the window of a TV shop, next to the outdoor. The window was set back a few feet and had a slight ramp leading up to it which helped slow us down. Even so many slammed into the window causing the manager to run out and shout at us.
The old parade had two gullies cutting through the parade, a wide and a narrow one. We would use these as a short cut, avoiding obstacles like Parker's greengrocer's pavement display and other people. Gullies should be a topic in their own right, a network used by children in particular to get about for play or safe travel to school.
 
Remember the Large Shakespeares very well, Had a paper round from there. It also had a very good bookshop. The Shakespeares on the other side had a good collection of Corgi toys, as well as Airfix Kits. There was also a Halfords and a Foster Brothers further up on this side.

I also had a paper round from Shakespeares, my first paid employment. If I remember correctly it was Rectory Park Rd and Forest Hill Road and that area, walk up one big hill and then down the other.
 
There was a good bike shop, going down the Cov towards Elmdon, on the left in a row of shops before the dual hgy,, anyone remember it?
 
I'm sure there was a Foster Brothers in that parade of shops Spargone, I seem to remember my mum buying me a fashionable button down collar shirt from there around 1963. Can anybody confirm this.
jmadone, my paper round from Shakespeare's was Errington Avenue, Windsor Drive and Charringsworth Road.
 
I'm sure there was a Foster Brothers in that parade of shops Spargone, I seem to remember my mum buying me a fashionable button down collar shirt from there around 1963. Can anybody confirm this.
jmadone, my paper round from Shakespeare's was Errington Avenue, Windsor Drive and Charringsworth Road.

Definitely a Foster Brothers there. My school trousers were always bought from there.
Ah you had a Solihull round. All those extra copies of the Solihull News which we, on the other side of the Coventry road, never had to deliver.
 
I'm sure there was a Foster Brothers in that parade of shops Spargone, I seem to remember my mum buying me a fashionable button down collar shirt from there around 1963. Can anybody confirm this.
jmadone, my paper round from Shakespeare's was Errington Avenue, Windsor Drive and Charringsworth Road.
The new parade opened around 1956/7 and Foster Brothers had a large unit on Coalway Avenue corner. I don't ever remember them having a shop on the old parade and certainly by 1963 if there had been one it would have been incorporate in the main business. Maybe there was another outfitter? Charles Gray is a name that tinkles a very small bell!
 
The new parade opened around 1956/7 and Foster Brothers had a large unit on Coalway Avenue corner. I don't ever remember them having a shop on the old parade and certainly by 1963 if there had been one it would have been incorporate in the main business. Maybe there was another outfitter? Charles Gray is a name that tinkles a very small bell!

Yes you're right. Fosters was on that corner and there was another "trendier" gents outfitters further on down that block of shops but I can't remember the name.
 
Munday's, the toy shop opposite, had a Beech-Nut Chewing Gum machine on their Coalway Avenue wall. They gave out an extra packet when the arrow on the knob on the side pointed towards you so we always checked for that when passing. Continuing on down the 'new' parade there was a Gregg's type of shop, perhaps Wimbush? They sold French bread sticks a couple of feet long which became a favourite of my dad. From time to time we would get small pineapple tarts there. Nearby was Curry's, still in the radio business. I bought wire for aerials for crystal sets there. As the years go by what shops sell changes. My dad told me that aluminium foil was first sold by radio shops and now there are no radio shops to speak of but foil can be bought from any supermarket.
Still keeping on that side of Coventry Road the next shop beyond the new parade at Coalway Avenue wasn't reached until near Arden Oak road. There was a newsagent/sweet shop there that we would stock up at before adventuring on to Elmdon Park. This shop had one of the first milk carton dispensing machines and also a machine for mixing sugary drinks. There was a problem with it in that it attracted wasps, often buzzing around inside the part where the drink cup came out. Turning the corner into Arden Oak Road was another newsagent/toy shop with curious curved widows either side of the doorway. They specialised in Dinky toys so this was the place to see the 19/6d models! Aston's the butchers was next to the gulley. They had a cold store at the back where I had my first amorous meetings (aged 7). Where The Arden Oak Harvester is now was a field covered in bushes that made a great playground as it fell away down to Hatchford brook. By the Coventry Road were two pipe bridges, one steel and round and one squarer and concrete. The brave would cycle over these. I never dared try the round one!
Towards the end of the Arden Oak parade was a hardware shop with goods out on the pavement. Heading north took one to Shepheards Road, (supposedly named after the owner of a hotel in Cairo). On the corner of Whitecroft Road was a fire alarm pedestal, the only one that I ever saw anywhere. Cutting across the road led to the pedestrian gulley that we called Dog's Paradise because of the amount of dog-droppings there. They always seemed to be white and I assumed they were made by Dalmations, (too much bone in their diet?). Across the road (Cranes Park) the first 'shop' was some sort of cafe but it certainly sold sweets as did the newsagent on the corner of Mapledene Road. I can't remember now which of them sold natural liquorice, 'twigs' that we chewed. There were all sorts of 'proper' liquorice items too, strips coiled around a 'comfit', bars etc. Sherbet in various forms, in tubes with a liquorice 'straw' that always blocked and bags with a lolly that you licked, (dabs). Sweets by the farthing (0.1p)!
 
Munday's, the toy shop opposite, had a Beech-Nut Chewing Gum machine on their Coalway Avenue wall. They gave out an extra packet when the arrow on the knob on the side pointed towards you so we always checked for that when passing. Continuing on down the 'new' parade there was a Gregg's type of shop, perhaps Wimbush? They sold French bread sticks a couple of feet long which became a favourite of my dad. From time to time we would get small pineapple tarts there. Nearby was Curry's, still in the radio business. I bought wire for aerials for crystal sets there. As the years go by what shops sell changes. My dad told me that aluminium foil was first sold by radio shops and now there are no radio shops to speak of but foil can be bought from any supermarket.
Still keeping on that side of Coventry Road the next shop beyond the new parade at Coalway Avenue wasn't reached until near Arden Oak road. There was a newsagent/sweet shop there that we would stock up at before adventuring on to Elmdon Park. This shop had one of the first milk carton dispensing machines and also a machine for mixing sugary drinks. There was a problem with it in that it attracted wasps, often buzzing around inside the part where the drink cup came out. Turning the corner into Arden Oak Road was another newsagent/toy shop with curious curved widows either side of the doorway. They specialised in Dinky toys so this was the place to see the 19/6d models! Aston's the butchers was next to the gulley. They had a cold store at the back where I had my first amorous meetings (aged 7). Where The Arden Oak Harvester is now was a field covered in bushes that made a great playground as it fell away down to Hatchford brook. By the Coventry Road were two pipe bridges, one steel and round and one squarer and concrete. The brave would cycle over these. I never dared try the round one!
Towards the end of the Arden Oak parade was a hardware shop with goods out on the pavement. Heading north took one to Shepheards Road, (supposedly named after the owner of a hotel in Cairo). On the corner of Whitecroft Road was a fire alarm pedestal, the only one that I ever saw anywhere. Cutting across the road led to the pedestrian gulley that we called Dog's Paradise because of the amount of dog-droppings there. They always seemed to be white and I assumed they were made by Dalmations, (too much bone in their diet?). Across the road (Cranes Park) the first 'shop' was some sort of cafe but it certainly sold sweets as did the newsagent on the corner of Mapledene Road. I can't remember now which of them sold natural liquorice, 'twigs' that we chewed. There were all sorts of 'proper' liquorice items too, strips coiled around a 'comfit', bars etc. Sherbet in various forms, in tubes with a liquorice 'straw' that always blocked and bags with a lolly that you licked, (dabs). Sweets by the farthing (0.1p)!

There was also a fire alarm pedestal located on the corner of Parkdale Road and Mapledene Road. It was activated by smashing a small glass panel to access a silver bell push. It was an integral part of our play equipment, along with the lampost on the opposite corner and no cycling sign at the top of the path through the park, together with someone's coat
on the pavement of the Mapledene Road/Greenvale avenue corner. All four being our bases in street games of rounders.
It was removed in the late 50s I think when a telephone kiosk was installed in Greenvale Avenue.

The cafe on Cranes Park Rd was in fact Peters' fish and chip shop which boasted a small table and a couple of chairs and sold drinks etc, mainly to the number 60 bus crews waiting at the terminus.
 
There was also a fire alarm pedestal located on the corner of Parkdale Road and Mapledene Road.

Interesting! Parkdale wasn't a road that we ever ventured into. The introduction to Margaret Green's book Around Sheldon says "Housing had to be a priority but as a result residents complained about the lack of shops, schools and buses and the poor telephone system and postal service." Perhaps these fire alarms were put in a stop-gaps until the telephone service was improved? In 1967 I worked on the Christmas post serving Goldthorne Avenue/Bantry Close and that 'walk' was the longest and furthest from Yardley sorting office, suggesting that the postal service was still relatively poor even then. I think Sheldon telephone exchange opened in 1952.
 
Pillar fire alarms - as seen in Birmingham and some other large cities - were installed back in the days when many people were not used to telephones and with the newer districts, particularly during and after WW2, when the national telephone system (GPO) was coming to terms with newer developments and public demands. I don't know when Birmingham phased theirs out but they could usually be seen sited in prominent places, such as cross roads/junctions in the 1950's. Not a stop gap really, just a progressive amenity at the time.
 
Pillar fire alarms - as seen in Birmingham and some other large cities - were installed back in the days when many people were not used to telephones and with the newer districts, particularly during and after WW2, when the national telephone system (GPO) was coming to terms with newer developments and public demands. I don't know when Birmingham phased theirs out but they could usually be seen sited in prominent places, such as cross roads/junctions in the 1950's. Not a stop gap really, just a progressive amenity at the time.
These Sheldon alarms were hardly in 'prominent places', quiet backwaters more like! Compared to telephone boxes they needed very little equipment, quite likely being wired up in one big loop. Similar alarms pre-date the telephone so I don't see them as being a 'progressive amenity' either. I am pretty certain that there were some Sheldon businesses served by Victoria exchange, which is further in to town than St. Andrew's football ground, so there could well be techical issues, let alone capacity problems, that stopped the installation of public telephones in these suburban locations. Both the alarms mentioned were replaced by coin boxes in due course.
 
I remember the houses being built in Bantry Close just of the Coventry Rd in about 1963.
Just before Christmas Father Christmas arrived on the site in a helicopter as a publicity stunt by the builders, I think Bryants. For the aviation enthusiasts amongst you it was a Brantly B2.
 
I remember the houses being built in Bantry Close just of the Coventry Rd in about 1963.
Just before Christmas Father Christmas arrived on the site in a helicopter as a publicity stunt by the builders, I think Bryants. For the aviation enthusiasts amongst you it was a Brantly B2.
Do you remember the big house whose grounds Bantry Close was built on? Our own stately home! Some 'big boys' showed me the way in through a gap in the fence and the front door was open with a grand staircase beyond. I don't think I went into the actual house and I was never persuaded to go into the grounds again. The apartment blocks built on the site had mechanical timer switches for the stair lighting - the first time that I had seen them. Halfway up the stairs with a heavy mail bag wasn't a good way to discover how they worked as I was suddenly plunged into darkness.
 
The cafe on Cranes Park Rd was in fact Peters' fish and chip shop which boasted a small table and a couple of chairs and sold drinks etc, mainly to the number 60 bus crews waiting at the terminus.
That's right. I only saw it at school start/finish when it wouldn't be frying. I think I remember the extractor fan outlets on the outside end wall. The last shop on the Sheaf Lane parade at The Wheatsheaf was a fish and chip shop too, again with the extractors on the end wall. In those days fish and chips was the only 'fast food' and not all parades had them, now 'fast food' shops dominate some parades. Drinks like Vimto seemed to be special to fish and chip shops.
 
You folks in Birmingham do not always spot the 'progressive amenities' that the city provided. Few places had pillar fire alarms. Another 'amenity' the city provided was free travel for the aged at an early date - 1950's I think. Elsewhere, places like Devon for instance, we had to wait until the end of the 20th. century for free travel. All Night buses , another progress not found most places, started in 1946.
 
Alan,

I can confirm your date for the start of bus passes as being somewhere between 1955 and 1957 as BCT had to build a little kiosk outside the basement Accounts Office. On the left hand side of the Accounts Office door was the clock where we had to clock in, and on the right hand side they had this little kiosk. I don't think it was there before I went off for National service in May 1955, but it was a new addition when I returned two years later.

Maurice
 
Yes you're right. Fosters was on that corner and there was another "trendier" gents outfitters further on down that block of shops but I can't remember the name.
If I recall, around 1974, the other outfitters was Bennett's? Not sure if this was the name in earlier years.
 
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I'm sure there was a Foster Brothers in that parade of shops Spargone, I seem to remember my mum buying me a fashionable button down collar shirt from there around 1963. Can anybody confirm this.
jmadone, my paper round from Shakespeare's was Errington Avenue, Windsor Drive and Charringsworth Road.
Foster Brothers was on the opposite corner to Munday's toy shop. The toy shop was far more appealing when my Mom used to call in to the Post Office further down the parade to cash in books of national savings stamps (6d stamps bought each week at Mapledene school) to buy school clothes just before summer holidays. She always took me straight to Fosters - I remember in those days all the clothes were neatly folded inside immaculate wooden sided drawers stacked behind a glass fronted cabinet. Mom always bought me clothes that were a couple of sizes larger to accommodate growth spurts in the new school year! My shirt sleeves were always too long and baggy but I consoled myself by thinking they looked like the Francis Drakes Ruff sleeves in the TV series around that time.
PS re paper round , it would have been Ebrington Avenue - will never forget my first bike ride to work snaking up the avenue to the steep incline starting on Charringworth to Windsor and Old Lode lane at the summit!
 
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Interesting! Parkdale wasn't a road that we ever ventured into. The introduction to Margaret Green's book Around Sheldon says "Housing had to be a priority but as a result residents complained about the lack of shops, schools and buses and the poor telephone system and postal service." Perhaps these fire alarms were put in a stop-gaps until the telephone service was improved? In 1967 I worked on the Christmas post serving Goldthorne Avenue/Bantry Close and that 'walk' was the longest and furthest from Yardley sorting office, suggesting that the postal service was still relatively poor even then. I think Sheldon telephone exchange opened in 1952.
Was born around the time when these features would have disappeared or was too young to notice. Did a couple of searches to see if I could see what one looked like - can anyone help? Found this site but it relates to London and contains some images
http://www.britishtelephones.com/atm/atmfire.htm
 
Was born around the time when these features would have disappeared or was too young to notice. Did a couple of searches to see if I could see what one looked like - can anyone help? Found this site but it relates to London and contains some images
http://www.britishtelephones.com/atm/atmfire.htm
The one that I remember had a square box on the top, probably taller than it was wide/deep, flat-topped but with rounded edges on the non-face sides. It was mounted on a round pillar with a slight taper. They weren't ornate like the old American ones that show up online. The pillar could well have been plain with no fluting. They certainly didn't look Victorian. A simple 'break glass' design, so the fire brigade would to go to the pillar to be
directed to any fire. This one at Fireworld looks similar to what I remember but the I'm not so sure about the enamelled plate. (Note that in this example only the fireservice can access the telephone).
Fireworld_home3.jpg
 
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Do you remember the big house whose grounds Bantry Close was built on? Our own stately home! Some 'big boys' showed me the way in through a gap in the fence and the front door was open with a grand staircase beyond.

The house was called Kedleston, the name was carved into the stone gateposts on Coventry Road. The attached map shows the extent of the grounds, tucked between the loops of Goldthorne and Olerenshaw and the Coventry Road.
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A reminder of Mr Steed's shop towards the Sheaf Lane end of the shops between Sheaf Lane and Coalway Avenue. At one time he had two units, the right-hand one being a small cafe. The shop, on the left, sold sweets, ice cream and hot-salted peanuts, served from a heated tray above a small unit set about shoulder height on the counter. Ice cream blocks came out of one of two rubber-lidded compartments that Mr Steed would rake away in so we never knew if he would suddenly say , "Sorry!", (I don't think he ever did). If the bag had been used for peanuts it would be sure to have grease marks so it can't have been used for that.
About twenty years ago I'm sure there was an ice cream van parked on a driveway off Deepmore Road, Yardley, labelled "Steed's", I wondered if there was a family connection as by that time the shop, and possibly Mr Steed, were long gone.
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Not sure if this has been put on the site before...the old prefabs located to the right of 'Fred's' shop on common lane. Many a time I walked past those on my way to school.20190812_155620.jpg
 
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Not sure if this has been put on the site before...the old prefabs located to the right of 'Fred's' shop on common lane. Many a time I walked past those on my way to school.View attachment 136428

Hi Radleys, It brings back so many memories, we lived half way up Common Lane opposite the pub originally called The Chelmsley which was built when I was a kid. The phone box at the bottom on the right was used a lot as we didnt have a home phone as a lot of people in the 50'2
We loved Fred's sweet shop when we were little , its shelves were laden with those large jars full of our favourite sweets. :yum

Happy memories.
 
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