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Two rare photo's of Old Almshouses, Lench's Trust,Steelhouse Lane in the 1880's
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Brummie On Exmoor
master brummie
I am tracing one of my 3xGreat Grandmothers, Elizabeth Hutchinson, who was married to Thomas Hutchinson a general or agricultural labourer, and who was born in Birmingham in 1784-85. They lived in 1 Court, 2 Brass Street off Summer Lane in 1851. I have not yet been able to locate them in 1841.
Thomas died, aged in his mid 80s, in April 1852. I now think I have found Elizabeth's death, on 24 Oct 1860, at the Glover's Trust, Steelhouse Lane. I have found plenty of references to the Trust, and it is clear that Elizabeth would be just the sort of person for the almshouses to take in. The death certificate does state that she was the widow of a Thomas Hutchinson, and the age looks right, so I am reasonably happy that the death certificate is for my ancestor.
However, I wonder if any records for the Trust survive, which might give me a little more info. I don't know Elizabeth's maiden name, and am keen to try and get back further. :stare: DOES anyone out there know if there are archives for the Trust and where they may be housed please? :stare:
Thomas died, aged in his mid 80s, in April 1852. I now think I have found Elizabeth's death, on 24 Oct 1860, at the Glover's Trust, Steelhouse Lane. I have found plenty of references to the Trust, and it is clear that Elizabeth would be just the sort of person for the almshouses to take in. The death certificate does state that she was the widow of a Thomas Hutchinson, and the age looks right, so I am reasonably happy that the death certificate is for my ancestor.
However, I wonder if any records for the Trust survive, which might give me a little more info. I don't know Elizabeth's maiden name, and am keen to try and get back further. :stare: DOES anyone out there know if there are archives for the Trust and where they may be housed please? :stare:
Bojalu
master brummie
Hi,
You can try contacting-
Birmingham Archives and Heritage at Birmingham Central Library
Tel: 0121 303 4549
or Email: [email protected]
They will also have the Marriage of your Relatives on mircofiche .
The charge will be that of a photocopy - 20pence if you view this yourself.
There will be a charge for staff to search and send a copy of this to you.
The correct name for the Church is St Peters and St Pauls in Aston , Sometimes known as Aston Juxta
Bo
You can try contacting-
Birmingham Archives and Heritage at Birmingham Central Library
Tel: 0121 303 4549
or Email: [email protected]
They will also have the Marriage of your Relatives on mircofiche .
The charge will be that of a photocopy - 20pence if you view this yourself.
There will be a charge for staff to search and send a copy of this to you.
The correct name for the Church is St Peters and St Pauls in Aston , Sometimes known as Aston Juxta
Bo
Brummie On Exmoor
master brummie
Many thanks to Suzanne & Bo for their kind replies.
Yes, I had spotted the possible Aston Juxta marriage, and Elizabeth was born in Birmingham, so it is a possibility. However, I am also aware that IGI does not have a record of every marriage. But I will track down the original to see if it adds anything which might confirm that it is my ancestors' marriage.
I will also check out Birmingham Archives re records of the Glovers Trust.
Thanks again.
Yes, I had spotted the possible Aston Juxta marriage, and Elizabeth was born in Birmingham, so it is a possibility. However, I am also aware that IGI does not have a record of every marriage. But I will track down the original to see if it adds anything which might confirm that it is my ancestors' marriage.
I will also check out Birmingham Archives re records of the Glovers Trust.
Thanks again.
Aidan
master brummie
Hi - I'm new to the forum so please excuse if this has been covered before, but I am hoping someone has a picture they can share of the Glover's Almshouse in Steelhouse Lane, which I think were a different set of buildings to the Lench's trust ones. Also can anyone please pinpoint where they were on the street and what happened to them?
I have found a nice picture of Lench's Trust Almshouses, Ladywood Road off Five Ways in the 1967 at https://oldbirminghampictures.lefora.com/2009/09/19/the-slides-of-phyllis-nicklin-edgbaston/
The location is
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=52...2.473514,-1.920081&spn=0.001434,0.003911&z=18
I have found a nice picture of Lench's Trust Almshouses, Ladywood Road off Five Ways in the 1967 at https://oldbirminghampictures.lefora.com/2009/09/19/the-slides-of-phyllis-nicklin-edgbaston/
The location is
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=52...2.473514,-1.920081&spn=0.001434,0.003911&z=18
Aidan
The position of Mrs Glovers Almshouses is shown in red on the c 1910 map. They are still listed up to 1933 (for thirty elderly females), though by then the church in the centre of the almshouses is the Church of Christ Scientist (rather than Congregational.) however by 1936 there is something called Glovers buildings, and the almshouses are not listed as such. Glovers buildings disappeared after the war. I do not know if they were the same buildings as the almshouses.
Mike
The position of Mrs Glovers Almshouses is shown in red on the c 1910 map. They are still listed up to 1933 (for thirty elderly females), though by then the church in the centre of the almshouses is the Church of Christ Scientist (rather than Congregational.) however by 1936 there is something called Glovers buildings, and the almshouses are not listed as such. Glovers buildings disappeared after the war. I do not know if they were the same buildings as the almshouses.
Mike
Aidan
master brummie
That's fantastic, Thanks Mike. Puts them around what is now the Coroner's Court then https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=52...52.48361,-1.895721&spn=0.002868,0.007821&z=17
Aidan
master brummie
My 4G-Grandmother Ann Brueton, a former school-mistress, is shown as living in House No.1 (of 15, think some of them were doubles or shared), Alms Houses, 108-110 Steelhouse Lane in the 1871C and died in 1878 at Glover's Buildings, Steelhouse Lane. Given the date of Glover's Almshouses/Buildings demise, I wonder if there is a photo, painting, picture or sketch of them in existence - it seems unlikely?
Slight problem Aidan.
You didn’t say the year originally. In 1872 (and presumably in 1871) there was another set of Mrs Glovers Alsmhouses on Steelhouse lane . They were there in 1890 and are shown on the map below in red, but have disappeared by 1892. they would correspond to 108-110 steelhouse lane, in addition to the ones on the other side of the road, so these would be the ones you are interested in. I’m afraid you would be very lucky to get a picture, but you never know
Mike
You didn’t say the year originally. In 1872 (and presumably in 1871) there was another set of Mrs Glovers Alsmhouses on Steelhouse lane . They were there in 1890 and are shown on the map below in red, but have disappeared by 1892. they would correspond to 108-110 steelhouse lane, in addition to the ones on the other side of the road, so these would be the ones you are interested in. I’m afraid you would be very lucky to get a picture, but you never know
Mike
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Aidan
master brummie
That's just super & made my day - thanks for remembering me Phil - For the icing on the cake, any idea of the date of the photo and which Glover's Buildings they are please?
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Aidan
I have no idea of the age of the photo, but it would have to be pre 1880 as they were built in 1764 and demolished in 1880, that is all the information that was with the photo. As I have said before I didn't keep information on where I sourced photos from, but I have begun to keep a record now.
Phil
I have no idea of the age of the photo, but it would have to be pre 1880 as they were built in 1764 and demolished in 1880, that is all the information that was with the photo. As I have said before I didn't keep information on where I sourced photos from, but I have begun to keep a record now.
Phil
Brummie On Exmoor
master brummie
FINAL ANSWER........
I thought I would leave a brief note about the Glover's Trust for anyone else who comes across this Posting because they are researching family members who were housed by them.
The Trust still exists although their home is now in Sutton Coldfield. There is very little about the Trust in Birmingham Archives (largely legal material about the legal side of the original Trust and it's workings). There is nothing about those who lived in the home or who may have worked for the Trust. There is nothing in the National Archives. I have also been in touch with the current Clerk to the Trustees, and although he was very sympathetic, and did a search of boxes of old documents that he had in his attic, he had nothing going back before the 1950s. The only material he had that was older was a bit on the history which I have found elsewhere, and a couple of splendid pictures of the old buildings in Steelhouse Lane, long since demolished. I am happy to scan and send these to anyone interested.
Hope this helps someone!
Jane
I thought I would leave a brief note about the Glover's Trust for anyone else who comes across this Posting because they are researching family members who were housed by them.
The Trust still exists although their home is now in Sutton Coldfield. There is very little about the Trust in Birmingham Archives (largely legal material about the legal side of the original Trust and it's workings). There is nothing about those who lived in the home or who may have worked for the Trust. There is nothing in the National Archives. I have also been in touch with the current Clerk to the Trustees, and although he was very sympathetic, and did a search of boxes of old documents that he had in his attic, he had nothing going back before the 1950s. The only material he had that was older was a bit on the history which I have found elsewhere, and a couple of splendid pictures of the old buildings in Steelhouse Lane, long since demolished. I am happy to scan and send these to anyone interested.
Hope this helps someone!
Jane
Brummie On Exmoor
master brummie
Have just seen the message from Aidan. I will endeavour to get the pics scanned on in the next few days, and post them on the site.
Jane
Jane
horsencart
master brummie
The following may be of interest (or not)
Glover,s Charity
Glover,s Charity dates back from January 1824 when the original Trust Deed was executed, Sarah Glover and Elizabeth Mansfield her sister Executorsof the will of Charles Glover, carried out his intentions by setting aside a portion of his estate originally for the support of an Orphan School, If no such institution was founded within a term of ten years the fund was to go to the erection of Almhouses for aged and infim widowed or maiden women "who shall in the judgment of the Trustees be Godly persons" No person shall be elected to an almhouse of less age than 45 anf must have been a resident in Birmingham or within two miles for atleast a year before such election , the paratice of the Trustees has been for many years to extend this term very considerably , The original almshouses were in Steelhouse Lane on the North sideand are now part of the General Hospital.
The Exsting almshouses are on the South side of Steelhouse Lane side of Steehouse Lane a row on each side of Eneneezer Congreragational Chapel, Those on the right of the chapel were erectedin 1853 in the lifetime of Mrs Glover those on the Left of the Chapel were erected in place of those sold about 1880 the estate which the TArustees is inan idustrial area in Deritend reduced considerably by modern sales and conversations,
among the Trutees have names notabl in Birmingham history William Chance junr,William Gammons, Samuel Glover, and later Henry Manton, j a Coper, Samuel Edwards, Sir Henry Manton the senior Trutee surviving has acted as Steward since the year 1876
source Notes on the Charities Trusts Institutions, Etc, in the city 1920
Glover,s Charity
Glover,s Charity dates back from January 1824 when the original Trust Deed was executed, Sarah Glover and Elizabeth Mansfield her sister Executorsof the will of Charles Glover, carried out his intentions by setting aside a portion of his estate originally for the support of an Orphan School, If no such institution was founded within a term of ten years the fund was to go to the erection of Almhouses for aged and infim widowed or maiden women "who shall in the judgment of the Trustees be Godly persons" No person shall be elected to an almhouse of less age than 45 anf must have been a resident in Birmingham or within two miles for atleast a year before such election , the paratice of the Trustees has been for many years to extend this term very considerably , The original almshouses were in Steelhouse Lane on the North sideand are now part of the General Hospital.
The Exsting almshouses are on the South side of Steelhouse Lane side of Steehouse Lane a row on each side of Eneneezer Congreragational Chapel, Those on the right of the chapel were erectedin 1853 in the lifetime of Mrs Glover those on the Left of the Chapel were erected in place of those sold about 1880 the estate which the TArustees is inan idustrial area in Deritend reduced considerably by modern sales and conversations,
among the Trutees have names notabl in Birmingham history William Chance junr,William Gammons, Samuel Glover, and later Henry Manton, j a Coper, Samuel Edwards, Sir Henry Manton the senior Trutee surviving has acted as Steward since the year 1876
source Notes on the Charities Trusts Institutions, Etc, in the city 1920
Brummie On Exmoor
master brummie
I am attempting to attach the pics I have. I have scanned them, and for some really odd reason, the files are huge. I tried to email them to someone and that failed. I will try to load them here.
Seem to have managed the 2 smaller ones but not the bigger one. Will have one more go...... no, still no luck. Anyway it does give an idea.
B O E
Seem to have managed the 2 smaller ones but not the bigger one. Will have one more go...... no, still no luck. Anyway it does give an idea.
B O E
RosemaryMorgan
New Member
I have just come across this thread as I finally applied for the death certificates for my 3 x great grandparents, Thomas and Elizabeth Hutchinson and found the reference to Glover's Trust on her death certificate. I would be interested in sharing family notes with Brummie on Exmoor, if you would be interested. My own family descends via their son, William Hutchinson, who married Selena Homer. I am not sure how to private message on this forum, as I don't access it very often.
Rosemary
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