Palser Family

[alan johnson]

Going back a few generations, the palser family (my mom's relatives) seem to have always lived in and around central Birmingham. Fairly unusual name so anyone got any info about them?

 

[suemalings]

Have you any names in particular? I just check the 1901 census for any palser's living in Birmingham and there are about 75 of them living in Birmingham/Aston!

 

[alan johnson]

god! you were quick! I'll look up names and get back

 

[suemalings]

You can't hold us down once we get going!

 

[alan johnson]

My grandfather, Arthur, was born in 1898, I think he was 2nd youngest of 8. His brothers and sisters were Richard, Emily, Harold, Martha, Francis (Frank), Ada, and Nell

 

[alan johnson]

I forgot Kate and Rose but They were born a bit later(?)

 

[suemalings]

The family are on the 1901 census living at 9 Bk 26 Essington St, Ladywood. (I think it's Essington but I can't be sure)

Richards b abt 1855 Birmingham Fitter's Labourer
Emma b abt 1869
Charles H b abt 1888
Martha by abt 1890
Alice E b abt 1893
Francis W b abt 1895
Ada Mable b abt 1897
Arthus A b abt 1899
Eleanor J b abt 1900

All born in Birmingham?

Have you seen any other census or FreeBMD entries or would you like me to carry on looking?

 

[Alberta]

Richard Palser married Emma Newman Sept 1888 ref 6d 174.

 

[suemalings]

Richards parents were (1881 census)

Abel b abt 1817 B'Ham Brace & Bit Maker
Martha b abt 1824

Emily b abt 1849 Paper Box Maker
Martha b abt 1852 paper Box Maker
Richard b abt 1854 Brace & Bit Maker
Annie b abt 1858 Paper Box Maker
Frances b abt 1862 Pupil teacher
Eleanor b abt 1866

Living at 7 Ickneild Port Road


Abel -m- Martha Clay Dec qtr 1841 Birmingham

 

[suemalings]

Going back a further generation to 1841 shows

William Palser b abt 1871 Brace & Bit Make
Patience b abt 1786
Jeremiah
Abel
Thomas
James

William, Patience and Jeremiah were not born in the county. I found Jeremihas baptism in 1814 in the Methodist Chapel, Dursley, Gloucester. So perhaps the Palsers came from the Gloucester area.

 

[alan johnson]

Thanks to everyone this afternoon. I feel as if I've made new friends as well as learning loads.

 

[lencops]

There was a Machine Tool Engineer working at BSA Tools, Kitts Green circa 1949 to 1960?, i believe he was a Widower with 2 teenage Sons. Len.

 

[mikejee]

Below are lists and dates of Palsers found in selected (ie ones I have) directories 1849-73. they are roughly in alphabetical order with years listed at end of each entry
Palser Abel and James, brace & bit & gilt toy & black ornament makers, 25½ Gooch st
Palser Brothers, brace and bit makers,25½ Gooch st 1858
Palser Abel & Thomas, brace bit manufacturers, Gooch St 1855
Palser & Marsh, ticket writers, 24 Union st 2 1936 - 7
Palser A. brace bit maker, home 103 Wrentham st 1858
Palser A. brace bit maker, 4½ Pershore st. 1862
Palser Abel, shopkeeper, 18, Lower Essex st 1855
Palser Abel brace bit maker, 26 Essington street 1873-1878
Palser Abraham brace & bit maker 120 suffolk St 1868
Palser Albert, laundry, 211 Edward road, Balsall heath 1908
Palser Albert,decorator, 216 Balsall Heath road 1913-1940
Palser Albert. William. cycle agent. & dealer. 9 & 11 High st. Aston 1936 - 1956
Palser Alice (Miss) shopkeeper, 53 Vauxhall road & 65 Northumberland street 1880-4
Palser Alice (Miss), shopkeeper, 49 Phillips' st. Aston brook 1912-1932
Palser Ann M. (Mrs.), grocer, 160 Phillips St Aston brook 1912-1913
Palser Ann Maria, shopkeeper, 49 Phillips st. 1933 - 9
Palser Annie Rebecca (Mrs.), pawnbroker, 169 Cromwell St 1890 -1903
Palser Daniel , 98 Aston road 1858
Palser Daniel ,gent 92 Aston road 1862
Palser Daniel, Beer retailer, 121 Great Francis St.Bloomsbury 1855
Palser Daniel, retail brewer 1 sherborne st 1862
Palser Daniel, grocer, 150 Nelson street West 1868 - 3
Palser Daniel, coach builder, seeTye & Falser ,1878- 4
Palser Daniel, glass & china warehouse. Heath road Harborne 1876 - 80
Palser Daniel, glass & china warehouse. 142 High St Harborne 1883 - 4
Palser Daniel,jun. shopkeeper, 147 Great Lister street 1880 – 4
Palser Edward, heraldic &general engraver, 17 mount st, newhall st 1862
Palser Edward, general engraver 21 Caroline St 1868
Palser Edward, sausage maker, 264 Icknield St west
Palser Edward, confectioner 227 Icknield st west 1872 - 6
Palser Edward linen draper Beech Lane Smethwick 1878
Palser Edward draper and grocer Bearwood Rd.Hagley Road, Smethwick 1880
Palser Edward draper and grocer 366 Bearwood Rd. Smethwick 1883
Palser Edward draper 366 Bearwood Rd. Smethwick 1884
Palser Edward, tobacconist 308 monument road 1890
Palser Edwin, bit maker, 45 Vaughton st 1862
Palser Edwin Charles grocer, see Hart & Palser 1878
Palser Mrs E. dressmaker, 105 Ryland road 1862
Palser Eliz. (Mrs.), nurse, 216 Balsall heath rd 1932 -8
Palser Emily (Mrs), paper box maker back of 26 Essington st 1884-1892
Palser Ernest T. beer retlr. 23 Essex st 1933
Palser Francis. H. linoleum dealer. 227 Great Lister st 1950 –n 56
Palser Frederick, painter, 90 Walford road, Sparkbrook 1912
Palser Frederick George, painter ,90 Walford road, Sparkbrook 1913-1933
Palser F. H. house furnisher, 108 Ladypool rd 1962 - 73
Palser George, bitmaker, 50 Vaughton st, 1862
Palser George, beer retailer, 18 Cuinberlnnd st. Broad street 1849
Palser George, beer retailer Ladywood Road 1855
Palser George, retail brewer Ladywood lane 1858
Palser George, retail brewer morville st. 1862
Palser George, anchor inn 23 Islington row. 1868
Palser George, Gough's Arms, 52 Upper Gough road 1872 – 6
Palser George. mechanical engineer. 33 Queen st. Smethwick 1949 -50
Palser George F. ironmonger , 172 spring hill 1878
Palser George Frederick, beer retailer, 26 Owen street 1912-1913
Palser George Henry, painter, 213 Conybere street 1888
Palser George Henry, painter, 118 Belgrave st 1890-1892
Palser George Henry, painter, 138 Belgrave st 1895
Palser George Henry, painter, 10 Long street, Sparkbrook 1896
Palser George Henry, painter, 244 Balsall heath road 1899-1900
Palser George Henry, painter, 169 Brighton rd. Balsall heath 1903-1913
Palser Harold W. photographer, 42 Kings rd. Erdington 1949 -56
Palser Henry, shopkeeper, 220 Bell Barn road: . 1892
Palser James, provision dealer, 105 Suffolk street 1872
Palser James, picture frame maker, 133 Leopold street 1873 -1903
Palser Jane, milliner, 61, Smallbrook st 1855
Palser M. (Mrs.), confctnr. 198 Birchfield rd 1949 - 62
Palser Maria (Mrs.), picture frame maker, 133 Leopold st 1908-1913
Palser Mary, whipcord maker, see Surman & Palser 1868
Palser Mary Ann (Mrs.), nurse, 14 Turner street, Sparkbrk 1912-1913
Palser Minnie (Miss), dressma. 120 Hunters road. hockley 1933
Palser Richard, brace bit maker, 26 Essington street 1883 – 4
Palser R. M. linoleum dealer. 200 Aston Rd 1956
Palser Thos., stl snuffer mkr, 19, Ashted Row 1858
Palser Thomas, shopkeeper, 21 Benacre st 1862
Palser Thomas, stationer, 183 Mary street, Balsall heath 1880
Palser Thomas, stationer, 167 Mary street, Balsall heath 1883-1884
Palser Thomas, brace & bit maker, home Norton st 1858
Palser Thomas, brace & bit maker, 22 Whittall street 1876 - 8
Palser Thomas, brace & bit maker, 5 Court, Whittall street 1880- 1890
Palser Thomas,' White Horse,' 203 Livery street, 1849
Palser Thomas, Eagle & Ball P.H. 70 Ladywood road 1912 -1913
Palser Thomas, beer retailer, 55 Muntz street, Small heath 1921
Palser William, hosier & haberdasher, 1 Friston st.Ladywood 1855
Palser William, brace and bit manufacturer, 38,Barford st 1849
Palser William, brace and bit manufacturer, 7,Barford st south 1855 - 8
Palser William. brace bit & auger mfr. 11 Angelina street 1862 - 73
Palser William, confectioner, 168 Cony here street 1888-1895
Palser William Frederick, painter, 190 Moseley road 1896 -1900
Palser William Frederick, painter & decorator , 51 Leopold St 1895
Palser William, painter, 138 St. Paul's road, Balsall heath 1903-1912
Palser William, painter, 72 Ivor road, sparkhill 1913-1921
Palser, William , rule maker, 180 new john st west 1862
Palser, William Hands, brass rule maker 3 Johnstone st Ladywood 1873 - 6
Palser William I. insurance agent, 183 Frederick road,Aston 1895 -1896
Palser William Charles, insurance agent, 62 Eversley st 1890
Palser William.Charles.insurance agent, 39 Victoria rd.Aston park 1892
Palser William Henry, beer retailer, 21 & 22 Vaughton st 1903
I hope the list is useful
mike

 

[thelids]

Hi - I wonder if you also help me, My great, great grandfather was William Palser Born 1831 - a spoon & fork filer. He married Ellen Tomlinson on 25th Dec 1855 - I have their original marriage certificate. William's father is listed as William Palser occupation Bit Maker. I have found a William born 1806 in Gloucestershire who married a Sophie Leadbeater - I think he maybe my great, great, great grandfather, but I can't trace who his father was? Can anyone help?

 

[neiltildesley]

My grandfather, Arthur, was born in 1898, I think he was 2nd youngest of 8. His brothers and sisters were Richard, Emily, Harold, Martha, Francis (Frank), Ada, and Nell

Hi Alan Ada Mable Palser was my great grandmother she married a Feild .. I have a photo on my wall with all the palsers on it including Your grandfather ..eaceful:

 

[neiltildesley]

Hi Alan
Ada Mable Palser was my great grandmother, she married a Field, I have a family photo of all the Fields with you grandfather on it aswell as there parents ..Richard and Emma.

 

[palsergraham]

Hi Alan
Ada Mable Palser was my great grandmother, she married a Field, I have a family photo of all the Fields with you grandfather on it aswell as there parents ..Richard and Emma.

Hi Richard and Emma,

Ada was my great grandfathers sister. He was Charles Henry Palser. You said you had a photo or photo's would it be possible to get a copy please?

Best regards,

Graham Palser

 

[Davidsteam]

Going back a few generations, the palser family (my mom's relatives) seem to have always lived in and around central Birmingham. Fairly unusual name so anyone got any info about them?

I am looking for information on another branch of the Palser family around Sparkbrook. I am researching George Frederick b 1849, d 16/5/14 married to Mary Ann b 1850, d 13/1/14. Their children, George Silvanus d 23/7/1942 and Florance Kate d 28/12/1922. They share a grave in Lodge Hill cemetery with a large headstone.

Their other children, William Henry c1876, Annie Elizabeth c1878, Lucy Maria c1883, Francis Edwin c1888 and my Grandmother, Ada b1897.

David Smith, Bromley Kent

 

[Alberta]

1881 19 Summer grove, Summer road, Edgbaston

George F Palser age 32 Pattern maker (Artz)
Mary Ann age 31
George S 7
William H 5
Annie E 3
Florence K 8 months.

1891 165 Prescott street
the family with the addition of Lucy and Francis

1901 the same address with the addition of Ada George Slyvanus is a Brass finisher boarding with a family in Wiltshire.

1911 Wheeleys Lane Edgbaston and George Frederick age 62 is now a Beerhouse keeper.

George Frederick Palser married Mary Collins in 1872 they has 8 children but one died.
Given the gap between 1878 and 1883 births it may have been Frederick George b 1879 died 1880.

In 1910 George Sylvanus travelled to USA to join his brother Frank Edwin who married Blanche Wynne on 19th august 1910
on Georges travel documents he is a Brass finisher, 5ft 6ins Fair hair and complexion with blue eyes his parents live at Welcome? Lane Birmingham(possible misunderstanding of Wheelers Lane)

 

[Davidsteam]

Thank you Alberta,
I am amazed at the speed of your response.
I last researched the Palsers in 1995, I met a distant relation and his information neatly dovetailed with mine. This information was moved to safe keeping and subsequently became lost to me. That relation is now not in good health and is no longer interested, but kindly agreed to copy and post what he has, (I believe He will be returning some of my research). We both had the same photograph of George Frederick's father, again I believe George, who cut a very imposing Victorian figure complete with mutton chop whiskers!

Again Thanks
David Smith

 

[sospiri]

As this old thread has been resurrected again, I'll throw in my two pennorth! My great great grandmother was Maria PALSER - born circa 1799 at Coaley in Gloucestershire so that ties in with postings #10 and #14, married Joseph TUBB at St Philip, Birmingham in 1817, and died in Brum in 1863. As the Coaley parish registers are not online, I've never bothered researching this further. The TUBB ancestors originally came from Shoreditch in London and were silk weavers, most probably of Hugenot extraction if you go back far enough. If anyone ventures as far as the Gloucester Record Office, I would appreciate a look-up as it is rather a long way from Crete!

Maurice

 

[Davidsteam]

Maurice, Ive just received some of my original research back along with photocopy photographs in the post, along with additional research from the elderly gent in Birmingham., I recall him telling me he was looking for a connection to the Gloucestershire Palsers)
George Frederick 1849-1914 (Wife of Mary Ann ) was the son of George Palser (1822-1907) His wife Was a Maria Eliza Chinery (b 1821) so not born a Palser.
Interestingly, going back a generation, this father, George Palser (d 1857 age 65) Married Elizabeth Hands (d 1867 age 74) married at St Philips 11/5/1816 would indicate a connection, is your Maria my Georges sister?

David

 

[sospiri]

David,

That is quite possible, but I have no other information about either her parents or siblings at the moment. Despite putting requests on various mailing lists, Curious Fox, etc., I've drawn a complete blank. Since moving to Crete about 11 years ago, I've only managed to revisit the UK every other year and with so many people to see - none near Gloucester - I just haven't got anywhere with this bit of research. We don't even have LDS history centres here, so the loan of the appropriate parish register film is not possible. Eventually, if I live long enough, perhaps FreeReg will get access to transcribe this parish!

Maurice

 

[sospiri]

David,

I've just done another check on Coaley at FreeReg. Baptisms have now been transcribed up to 1800, so I searched on 1780 to 1800 for Maria PALSER and included 40 places within 9.3 miles - a feature of their new search engine. Still nothing, so I think I will have to wait a little longer.

Maurice

 

[sospiri]

David,

This is my last reply on open thread and then I will take it into private message. On FMP there is the following entry:-

Mary dau of Richard & Katherine PALSER of Wootton-under-Edge [8km south of Coaley]
Born 20 July 1797 baptised 20 March 1799

Other than that, FreeReg are not currently working on Coaley after 1800 - presume they don't have access.

Close, but the wrong side of Dursley from Coaley and Mary not Maria.

Maurice

 

[pjmburns]

I am intrigued - George Palser's marriage to Elizabeth Hands is witnessed by Sarah Hands and Michael Broome. Maria Palser's marriage to Joseph Tubb is witnessed by Sarah Butler and Michael Broome. The Sarah might be different people but Sarah could have got married between the other weddings. Michael could be the same person. Does this imply Maria and George are related or is that a leap too far?

Janice

 

[Davidsteam]

These are the photos referred to in post 22, I believe these to be George Palser (1822-1907) His wife Was a Maria Eliza Chinery (b 1821). I doubt they the next generation c 1850-1914, or the previous generation c1792-c1867.
So my questions are: 1) Has anybody else a copy or seen these photos, 2) Any idea of the date, from the fashion of the day or they wearing some form of regional attire?
I Know my distant relation had the same photograph, so there is a good chance there are more prints out there.

David

 

[sospiri]

David,

I've certainly never seen these before and from the older photographs in my possession, I would suggest that they would be taken in the very late 1860s or 1870s at the earliest, which would make them 50ish, though they look older than that.

Maurice

 

[neiltildesley]

Hi Richard and Emma,

Ada was my great grandfathers sister. He was Charles Henry Palser. You said you had a photo or photo's would it be possible to get a copy please?

Best regards,

Graham Palser

Hi Graham , please find attached the picture that I mentioned, My great grandmother ADA PALSER is at the front holding the rabbit .. We both share the same grt grt grandparents .. I live in Birmingham about 5 miles from where this picture was taken in Ladywood .. Ada was such a character and always laughing ! She passed away in 1988, I have one big regret that I didn't sit and listen to her stories, but that's being young for you ... which one is your great grandfather on the picture ... Ada left me the photo when she passed away, I can remember it being up in her house.
Ada had two children, George and Mary my grandmother, she married George Field.

Hope you like the photo

 

[mikejee]

Recieved the following message:
Hello, I am still not sure how to start a new thread in the 'From the newspapers section'
Do you have access to Birth death and marriage section of the Birmingham Daily Post for 7 May 1890, reference George Palser about the death of his wife Maria?

Please feel free to post or re word this message in the appropriate section, ie Palser thread or lost pubs, ,(Eagle and Ball Morville St) or newspaper thread.
Regards
David Smith

The relevant cutting is below, though rather sparse on information. hope it is useful