Woodman pub Nechells

[mw0njm.]

can any one remember the pub,in cattles grove nechells.about half way down on the left,I am almost sure it was called the woodman.it was a long time ago

 

[Phil]

Is this the one you mean

Phil

 

[mw0njm.]

hello, yes thank you very much for the reserch, i am very pleased with it.
we lay on the loding celler doors snd shouted through a not hole'Stop puring them slops in to the barrels and the gaffer chaced us down the road,shoutin come hear you yobs,we was eleven then. I am now sixty.Can any one remember any thing else about cattlells grove ie any names,or places down that road.


pete

 

[Roger Baker]

I remember the Woodman where I spent many a happy hour !
I think Smith Stone & Knight paper mill was on Cattells Grove and also W.H Rooke an engineering factory.

 

[Pomgolian]

My brother had his 21st birthday held up stairs there....
There wasn't much space, but we had a live band called 'Micky and The Raves'.
I worked with Micky (Michael Hardwick) at Moyle and Adams on Sutton Rd, just passed 'The Yenton' Erdington .
What a night that was I really enjoyed it....!

Pom :angel:

 

[Bill Pearson]

can any one remember the pub,in cattles grove nechells.about half way down on the left,I am almost sure it was called the woodman.it was a long time ago

Hi yes it was the Woodman small pub, the wifes uncle lived facing that little pub. Bill.

 

[alana124]

yes i remember that pub on the corner of johnson stree the pub on the the other corner was the albion
my friend lived next to the woodman her name was carol
i lived in johnson street in the 60 does anyone remember frank gordon scrap metal merchants

 

[mw0njm.]

i lived 3 doors from the pub.next door to the pub was bents. Smiths was they the landlords of the pub . op corner was a big garden. other side of the road was
a little shop.next door to that was taylors. they kept pigs.

 

[mw0njm.]

hello, yes thank you very much for the reserch, i am very pleased with it.
we lay on the loding celler doors and shouted through a not hole'Stop puring them slops in to the barrels and the gaffer chaced us down the road,shoutin come hear you yobs,we was eleven then. I am now sixty.Can any one remember any thing else about cattlells grove ie any names,or places down that road.


pete

dont time fly.when your having fun.that post was 11 yrs ago.and sill looking

 

[Johnbell]

yes i remember that pub on the corner of johnson stree the pub on the the other corner was the albion
my friend lived next to the woodman her name was carol
i lived in johnson street in the 60 does anyone remember frank gordon scrap metal merchants

 

[Johnbell]

Just picked up on this, a bit late, i know!!
I remember Frank Gordon very well. Scrap metal dealer, drove a silver grey S1 Bentley.
He was our "manager", of a pop group i was drummer in. We turned up to a few bookings in the Bentley!
I was in his yard one day when a young lad about 10yrs old came in with a sack full of brass door knockers and letterboxes. 10 bob changed hands, Big wink from Frank!Did he live in Coleshill? Lost touch mid 60's.

 

[brummie71]

I just found this thread while searching my own families history. On my great grandfathers marriage certificate, my great great grandfather listed his profession as "Publican". This was in 1895.
I then found his name in a list of businesses and he was identified as a "Beer Retailer" at 39 Cattells Grove.
Then looking at old maps and using sites like this, I discovered it was the Woodman.
I am unclear at this point what is role at the Woodman was but I am keen to find out more.

 

[mikejee]

If he is listed as beer retailer, then he would have been the licensee. "Beer retailer" can mean either an off licence or a beerhouse (which is only licensed to sell beer and cider, and not wine or spirits, for consumption on the premises)Obviously in this case it was a beerhouse

 

[brummie71]

If he is listed as beer retailer, then he would have been the licensee. "Beer retailer" can mean either an off licence or a beerhouse (which is only licensed to sell beer and cider, and not wine or spirits, for consumption on the premises)Obviously in this case it was a beerhouse

Forgive the dumb question...but what role is the "licensee"?

 

[brummie71]

The data I have is that in the 1890 Kellys directory of Birmingham he identifies himself as a Beer Retailer at the address confirmed as the Woodman on Cattells Grove.
On my great grandfathers marriage certificate 5 years later (1895) he lists himself as a publican.

 

[mikejee]

You need a licence to sell alcohol, either for consumption on or off of the premises. The licensee is the person who holds the licence, and usually runs the establishment, though often in the early/mid 1800s the man might hold the licence , but have another full time job and the wife/daughter/whatever actually ran the pub

 

[brummie71]

Thanks Mike. Its super cool that my great great grandfather is part of the Woodmans history. I just wish I could find out more info. I have been searching the internet and ancestry and not finding much so far. :-(

 

[Astoness]

Thanks Mike. Its super cool that my great great grandfather is part of the Woodmans history. I just wish I could find out more info. I have been searching the internet and ancestry and not finding much so far. :-(

hi brummie 71 what sort of other info are you searching for

lyn

 

[MWS]

My grandad was living just around the corner at 9 Johnson St in 1901, so may have popped in there.

Though he wasn't there for long and he appears to have moved around quite a lot.

 

[brummie71]

hi brummie 71 what sort of other info are you searching for

lyn

I would love to see more about the Woodman. I have come across other web sites that give you details about a pub like a complete list of the licensees. I cannot seem to find anything about the Woodman online at all.