surely elisebeth , you must know where these tubes are drawn, in foundries , and rolling mills and smelting foundries , i done my drawing at the bromford tubes ltd . at bromford lane .erdington , and at tubes investments at rocky lane aston also barker and allen ltd . dudley road and at ICI witton and in fact thats where i leart the skill , i have extracted copper , brass , and steel .working to centre meters , and fractions from blue print drawing to make customers orders , tell frantic it was a nice way of putting to rupert. i had to smile astonian ,;;;