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Williams family in Ladywood

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Paul D

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Hi, im new here and would like to find out about where my grandad was born and raised until he was 17 which would have been 1932. He then went into the Hampshire Regiment and then moved to Southampton.I remember him well as I was 21 when he passed away. His name was Herbert Williams and everyone called him Bill. His parents up until the day they married lived next door to each other in Graham Street, would that be in Aston Manor? When I find out the address in Ladywood I will post more details. I would love to see a picture of the streets he lived in .His parents were married in 1900 at St Peters church. Their names were Henry John Williams and Winifred Elizabeth Hubble.
 
1911 5 Bk 96 Anderton Street, Ladywood
John Henry williams 43 b. Penkridge house painter
Winifred age 35 born Birmingham
Henry Joseph 9
Francis George 8
Bernard John 7 all born birmingham

1901 St Marks Street,Ladywood
Henry john Williams age 32 born Penkridge House painter
Winifred age 24 b. birmingham

Herbert Williams mothers maiden name Hubble birth reg. Birmingham June qtr 1915.
 
Wow, that was quick Alberta. I,ll have to look up Anderton St on Google street walk. Big family, my grandads family ended up with 7 children. When I get some more information I will post it. Thank you
 
Here are some Electoral roll entries – all at same address as 1912 so I would hazard a guess this is where your grandfather grew up. He himself isn’t on any of these rolls due to his age.

1912 Absent Voters list has Henry John Williams living at 12 Leabrook Avenue, Northbrook Street, Rotten Park Ward, Ladywood – Army Number 118499 Pte. 348 Co. M.T.,A.S.C.

1925 Henry John, Winifred Elizabeth, Henry Joseph and Francis George Williams.

1927 Henry John, Winifred Elizabeth, and Bernard John Williams.

1930 John Henry and Winifred Elizabeth Williams.

1939 Henry John and Reginald Donald Williams.

Winifred Elizabeth Williams dies aged 55 in 1931 December quarter Birmingham S 6d 209

1891 census transcription details for:3, 6 Court, Camden Street, Birmingham
National Archive Reference:
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[TR]
[TD]RG number:
[/TD]
[TD]RG12
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Piece:
[/TD]
[TD]2367
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Folio:
[/TD]
[TD]43
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Page:
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Reg. District:
[/TD]
[TD]Birmingham
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sub District:
[/TD]
[TD]Lady Wood
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Parish:
[/TD]
[TD]Birmingham
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Enum. District:
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ecclesiastical District:
[/TD]
[TD]St Pauls
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]City/Municipal Borough:
[/TD]
[TD]Birmingham
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Address:
[/TD]
[TD]3, 6 Court, Camden Street, Birmingham
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]County:
[/TD]
[TD]Warwickshire
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Name
Relation
Condition
Sex
Age
Birth Year
Occupation , Disability
Where Born
WILLIAMS, Thomas
Head
Married
 M
42
1849
Painter & Paper Hanger
Penkridge, Staffordshire
WILLIAMS, Emma
Wife
Married
 F
43
1848
Steel Pen Piereer
Great Haywood, Staffordshire
WILLIAMS, Henry J
Son
Single
 M
22
1869
Machine Fitter
Penkridge, Staffordshire
WILLIAMS, Alice E
Daughter
Single
 F
20
1871
Machinist
Penkridge, Staffordshire
WILLIAMS, Emily J
Daughter
Single
 F
15
1876
Steel Pen Piereer
Saltley, Staffordshire
1891 census transcription details for: 37, Spencer Street, Birmingham
National Archive Reference:
[TABLE="width: 770"]
[TR]
[TD]RG number:
[/TD]
[TD]RG12
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Piece:
[/TD]
[TD]2395
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Folio:
[/TD]
[TD]60
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Page:
[/TD]
[TD]18
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Reg. District:
[/TD]
[TD]Birmingham
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sub District:
[/TD]
[TD]All Saints
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Parish:
[/TD]
[TD]Birmingham
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Enum. District:
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ecclesiastical District:
[/TD]
[TD]St Paul
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]City/Municipal Borough:
[/TD]
[TD]Birmingham
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Address:
[/TD]
[TD]37, Spencer Street, Birmingham
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]County:
[/TD]
[TD]Warwickshire
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Name
Relation
Condition
Sex
Age
Birth Year
Occupation , Disability
Where Born
HUBBLE, Joseph
Head
Married
 M
35
1856
Electro Plate Finisher
Birmingham, Warwickshire
HUBBLE, Elizabeth
Wife
Married
 F
39
1852
Birmingham, Warwickshire
HUBBLE, Winifred
Daughter
Single
 F
14
1877
Burnisher
Birmingham, Warwickshire
HUBBLE, Cecila
Daughter
Single
 F
12
1879
Birmingham, Warwickshire
HUBBLE, Francis
Son
 M
7
1884
Scholar
Birmingham, Warwickshire
HUBBLE, Joseph
Son
 M
5
1886
Scholar
Birmingham, Warwickshire
 
Hi bewdley, thank you so much for going to all that work, I appreciate it. I had a look for Anderton st on Google street view, all gone. Modern houses now, mind you that is to be expected.
 
Hi Paul D, you're welcome hope it helps you fit the pieces together. Here is a list of children born to Williams mmn Hubble after 1911 census, which Alberta has already supplied you with.

Births
Dec 1912 Williams Donald R – Hubble – Birmingham 6d 31

Mar 1914 Williams Frederick W – Hubble – Birmingham 6d 301

Jun 1915 Williams Herbert – Hubble – Birmingham 6d 306

Sep 1919 Williams Dorothy L – Hubble – Birmingham 6d 269

bewdley
 
thanks again bewdley, that last entry, I always thought my granddads birthday was in march. I have just rang my mum up and Leabrook Avenue has jogged her memory, its all coming together.She remembers a story that either my granddads father or his grandfather spent a little time in prison for stealing a loaf of bread. Seems harsh but it was different then. I would love to see a picture of what Leabrook Avenue looked like when my granddad lived there. I,ll go through the pictures here on the forum and see what comes up.My mum says she thinks some of the family worked in the gold quarter too making jewellery.Thanks again.
 
Hi the dates given are the quarters a birth is registered ie if a baby is born in January then it should be registered within the March quarter. A birth has to be registered within 42 days of birth in England, Northern Ireland and Wales, so if baby is born in March it may well be it isn't registered until April which falls into the June quarter if you know what I mean.
 
It is possible for a birth registration to be after 42 days, but a fine was incurred. My grandfather's date of birth was 'adjusted' by 2 months to avoid this! So he was actually registered over three and a half months after his birth.
His birth cert shows a DOB two weeks AFTER his baptism record shows he was baptised. The bapt record showed the correct dob!
He always celebrated two birthdays!

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