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William Grice & Sons, Minerva Works, Fazeley St.
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horsencart
master brummie
They appear to be at Warwick Wharf Fazeley St and are listed (1932) as Grice William and Sons Iron Founders
LLoyd
From the site https://www.british-history.ac.uk/ the attached map c 1890 shows minerva works in Lower Fazeley St, Appaently zt the time of this map (1890) they made agricultural implements
Mike
From the site https://www.british-history.ac.uk/ the attached map c 1890 shows minerva works in Lower Fazeley St, Appaently zt the time of this map (1890) they made agricultural implements
Mike
Lloyd
master brummie
Thank you all, mikejee that does help. Minerva Works at Warwick Wharf, and Agricultural implements. It begins to fit.
I'm researching a chap called Richard Redman Huddleston, who jointly with William Grice and Sons patented "A new or improved machine for cleaning paint can
s and like containers", and his son David who was an RAF Pilot Officer and was killed when the Wellington Bomber he was in crashed near to Digbeth Coach Station in march 1944. (See https://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/showthread.php?t=12839&highlight=march+1944 for that info. appeal)
I'm researching a chap called Richard Redman Huddleston, who jointly with William Grice and Sons patented "A new or improved machine for cleaning paint can
Lloyd
Was interested to see how he cleaned his paint cans. Couldn't find that patent but somehow (not quite sure how) did find two by a R R Huddleston in 1921 and 1928
https://www.wikipatents.com/gb/178232.html
https://www.wikipatents.com/gb/324150.html
concerning respectively hydraulic control and heating stoves. Don't know if its the same bloke.
Mike
Was interested to see how he cleaned his paint cans. Couldn't find that patent but somehow (not quite sure how) did find two by a R R Huddleston in 1921 and 1928
https://www.wikipatents.com/gb/178232.html
https://www.wikipatents.com/gb/324150.html
concerning respectively hydraulic control and heating stoves. Don't know if its the same bloke.
Mike
Lloyd
master brummie
That's him!
Try https://v3.espacenet.com/results?sf...PD=&PA=+ RICHARD+REDMAN+HUDDLESTON&IN=&EC=&IC
for all 4 of his patents.
Try https://v3.espacenet.com/results?sf...PD=&PA=+ RICHARD+REDMAN+HUDDLESTON&IN=&EC=&IC
for all 4 of his patents.
Lloyd
Have found the cleaning patent now. From this it looks as if he was never awarded the patent as he (or they) didn't pay the final fee
https://www.wikipatents.com/gb/314170.html
mike
Have found the cleaning patent now. From this it looks as if he was never awarded the patent as he (or they) didn't pay the final fee
https://www.wikipatents.com/gb/314170.html
mike
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horsencart
master brummie
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Lloyd
master brummie
Thanks for that extra confirmation.
Your map is fascinating for at least a couple of errors - if you compare it to a present day map, say https://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap....am,+B_5&searchp=newsearch.srf&mapp=newmap.srf , you will see that Pickford Street has been incorrectly named Barn Street, Barn Street itself has been named Milk Street (which it is from Floodgate Street, but only to the junction with Bordesley Street).
You can see Pickford and Co. premises marked, in the area which would be surrounded by Warwick Wharf, and gave the name to Pickford Street opposite.
This Pickford & Co, formed originally in Manchester in the mid 1700s (or possibly earlier - there was a carrier named Pickford working in the Manchester area in 1630) merged with Carter, Patterson & Co and others in 1912 to form the removals and haulage company still operating today. The Canalside depot in Fazeley Street probably dates from 1802, when the company's canal carrying services started serving the Birmingham area.
Your map is fascinating for at least a couple of errors - if you compare it to a present day map, say https://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap....am,+B_5&searchp=newsearch.srf&mapp=newmap.srf , you will see that Pickford Street has been incorrectly named Barn Street, Barn Street itself has been named Milk Street (which it is from Floodgate Street, but only to the junction with Bordesley Street).
You can see Pickford and Co. premises marked, in the area which would be surrounded by Warwick Wharf, and gave the name to Pickford Street opposite.
This Pickford & Co, formed originally in Manchester in the mid 1700s (or possibly earlier - there was a carrier named Pickford working in the Manchester area in 1630) merged with Carter, Patterson & Co and others in 1912 to form the removals and haulage company still operating today. The Canalside depot in Fazeley Street probably dates from 1802, when the company's canal carrying services started serving the Birmingham area.
Heartland
master brummie
No Pickfords, canal carrying operation at Birmingham began with the acquisition of the Burton Boat Company wharf, (then in Aston at Love Lane), they transferred to the Warwick Wharf in 1811, after they took over the warehouse established by Scott & Cleverton. Their carrying business at Warwick Road passed to the Grand Junction Canal Carrying Company. The Warwick & Birmingham Canal Company retained ownership of the Wharf throughout.