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White Swan,...Wheeler Street

Lady Penelope

Lady Penelope

master brummie
Hi,

I'm looking for any information about a pub called the White Swan which was in Wheeler Street, Lozells until the early 1900's. It was only a beer house and must have been demolished early in the century as there is a space in the census returns and directories (it was no. 157 and there's a gap between 149 and 159). It was about a third of the way up between Great King Street and Clifford Street, west side.

Any ideas about why it would be demolished, please?

Lady P
 
Hi Again,

Still no joy with finding out why this pub, in Wheeler Street, Lozells, was demolished. Normally I would go to Central Library to look at the maps to see how long this road had been there but ......! I think it was on the route of the old Icknield Street.

Does anyone have a map please? I've got several sections of the 1889 one but not that particular road. Also have the 1930's Bartholemew's Atlas but this doesn't show property (shows a lot of the nice old, long-gone roads though).


This area doesn't seem to have been developed until the mid-1800's so I was wondering why they would knock it down.

Thanks Lady P
 
I still have a beer retailer in 1904 the property must have been empty till the early 1910,s when it becomes a furniture dealers business
 
Thanks for that horsencart. As there was a gap in an earlier directory I had assumed that the building had gone - I didn't think about it being empty.

You'd think by now I would have stopped assuming!

I'll go back to the directories and take another look.

Lady P
 
it would have been demolished in the 60s along with the rest of wheeler st...could be hard to find a pic of the pub as it ceased to be one so early on..on the other hand if a map could pinpoint where the furniture shop was and the name of it at number 157 then maybe there is a pic of that on the wheeler st thread..

lyn
 
The last entry in the directorys is/was1967/68 directory as 157 Hill E & E N. furniture Brkrs, the shop was between Greet King St and and Cliiford St on the West
 
The landlord listed in Kellys in 1908 was Joseph Wassell, but he had been replaced by Elizabeth millward, dressmaker in 1910.
Below is a map of part of wheeler St (c 1913) showing no 137 in blue, and also acorn pub .

mapc_1913_showing_position_of_Acorn_and_no_157_wheeler_st_-_was_white_swan.jpg
 
Wow! Thank you all for your help.

This is a really lovely site - I've been a member for some time but only just 'getting into it'.

Thanks again,

Lady P
 
thanks mike..just noticed that to the left of where it say PH denoting the acorn there is another PH and i am assuming that this also denotes the acorn ..as we know the acorn use to be a morgue and there was a long passagway that went right through to wilton st hence there was two entrances to the pub..

lyn
 
In the c 1889 map there is only the one pub building. In the `913, as you note , there was two. however they are both listed as The Acorn in th e1913 Kellys, at both 187 Wheeler St & 80 wilton St, both with the landlord Samuel william Hodges
 
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