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Walter H Middleton daughter info

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fern84

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Hi there,

I am driving myself crazy trying to research who walter h middleton's daughter was. I know her name was Hetti (probably short for henrietta) but don't know if she took Walter's surname or mothers? Do not know who the mother is, but as walter was in the military it could have been anywhere. He was married to ann harriet chadwick. I know that this hetti is Doreen middleton's half sister. Walter was born 1895 but do not know the death date. This is waltee and annie. And below the mysterious Hetti. If anyone could shed some light i would be very grateful.IMG-20190925-WA0005.jpeg
 

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hi fern hope someone can help you with this one....i am also moving this thread to the surname interests of the forum for you

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I can't even see a Middleton / Chadwick marriage listed around that time for those two. Can anyone else?

Maurice :cool:
 
There are 41 Middleton / Chadwick marriages, but not one is between a Walter and a Harriet or an Ann (& variants). Did they actually marry?

Maurice :cool:
 
sospiri said:
I can't even see a Middleton / Chadwick marriage listed around that time for those two. Can anyone else?

Maurice :cool:
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Hi Maurice - I can't find one either and was wondering if this was another "living together" situation. Was he married before to the Mother of Hetti??
Do we know if all these people have a Birmingham connection?
 
Doreen was born 1939 and still living, she is my great aunt. I don't know if she is older or younger as i don't know the date of birth for hetti, don't know her real name either. Doreen's daughter is going to ask her if she remembers anything but it's a long shot. Was just hoping somebody might recognise the photo of hetti.
 
There's also Annie Rose coates (middleton), my grandad walter henry middleton, ronnie midleton and 2 half brothers from chadwick called alfie and billy jones. My birth mum is sure that walter and harriet got married.
 
The reason I asked was that I found a birth in 1926 of a Hettie Middleton in Stone Staffordshire and wondered if it might be her. That said - Hettie seems to be quite a common name around the 1930s.
 
Janice,

You may well be right on the non-marriage. The birth is also a problem in that the only Walter H is in Tyneside, and there no sign of one on 1939 Register. On military records there are three W.H. Middletons, but two of these are probably the same man in the Surrey Regiment and the other is up north again. I can't for the life of me see any Birmingham or even Midland connection at the moment.

Maurice :cool:
 
If he was military then his papers should give some idea of his travels. I wonder if the family have any documents to back up the army career. As you say I don't know what the Birmingham connection is. Perhaps Fern can help us.
 
I know my grandad walter henry middleton was born in birmingham, Walter's son who married Gladys yates in Birmingham. Their daughter was born in brum (my birth mum).
Thank you all for your efforts.
 
There is a family tree on Ancestry that has a lot of records that do not match each other it gives the wrong birthdate for Harriet annie and her birthplace as Liverpool( I have found her birth in birmingham) it names a daughter Elizabeth Hettie middleton born 1821 no record found , I can find no record nor any marriage Middleton/Chadwick and the family tree has no marriage.

1939 6 bk 186 Great Russell Street
Walter H Middleton b 26th Dec 1901
Annie H Middleton b 23rd Aug 1906
there are also 4 officially closed entries, could Hettie be the 4th amongst them.
There are 3 children that can be blacked out at the time the Register was compiled, Annie 1934,Walter H 1938 and Doreen M 1939
Names are blacked out when people were born less than 100 yrs ago and no offical death has been found.
Incidently there is a marriage of Walter H Middleton to Ethel A Morrell in Dec qtr 1921
reference Vol 6d page 1008.
 
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Possible match:
In 1935 Walter Henry and Annie are on the e roll at 81 Cecil street. (Listed with 10 other people so I am not sure if the address is 100%correct).
 
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Not sure about this - there is a Harriet A Chadwick on the 1939 register with dob of 12 Nov 1928 not 1927. That person seems to have come into the country in 1934 having been born in the USA. On the 1939 reg she is living with parents Eddie and Hilda plus siblings Beatrice and James. These names all match the passenger list. The strange thing is that their proposed address was Henson Lane MIDDLETON.
In 1950 Eddie, Hilda and Harriet are at Hams Road on the e roll.
 
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Alberta said:
There is a family tree on Ancestry that has a lot of records that do not match each other it gives the wrong birthdate for Harriet annie and her birthplace as Liverpool( I have found her birth in birmingham) it names a daughter Elizabeth Hettie middleton born 1821 no record found , I can find no record nor any marriage Middleton/Chadwick and the family tree has no marriage.

1939 6 bk 186 Great Russell Street
Walter H Middleton b 26th Dec 1901
Annie H Middleton b 23rd Aug 1906
there are also 4 officially closed entries, could Hettie be the 4th amongst them.
There are 3 children that can be blacked out at the time the Register was compiled, Annie 1934,Walter H 1938 and Doreen M 1939
Names are blacked out when people were born less than 100 yrs ago and no offical death has been found.
Incidently there is a marriage of Walter H Middleton to Ethel A Morrell in Dec qtr 1921
reference Vol 6d page 1008.
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Walter H Middleton married my fathers aunt Ethel Morroll. One of the daughters was Ethel M Middleton
 
fern84 said:
Walter h middleton (the father) was born in poplar london. His dad was also called walter and his mum was Annie Pill.
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The Walter Middleton registered in Poplar the son of Walter Middleton and Annie Pill appears to be a Walter John David Middleton. He dies in Essex in 1965.
 
Fern , this doesn't answer your question about Hetti but it might concentrate your search in Birmingham because there are many errors on Ancestry family tree for this couple, quoting Poplar and Liverpool for them.
We know from 1939 that Walter was born 26th Dec 1901 and Harriet Annie 23 Aug 1906
There are 2 births on record for Birmingham that fit this
Walter Henry Middleton, March qtr 1902 this would contain births for dec 1901
Harriet Annie Chadwick Dec qrt 1906 this would contain births for august
If you were to get the certificates this would start the basis for your search
If you give the exact birthdates as a criteria you will not be paying for ones that are incorrect.
 
Does the info/family tree provided by Grea suggest that Walter Henry Middleton married Ethel Amy Morrell before 'marrying' Harriet Annie Chadwick?

And if so then could the Ettie be their daughter Ethel as I think Grea is suggesting?
 
Thank you all this is very eye opening and helpful. I have adjusted my family tree, but yes you must be right that middleton and chadwick didn't get married, although i did find a census with both on there and their status was married. It was just the 2 of them at this time. I'll have to check my tree again for the census date.
 
pjmburns said:
This post was a reply to the previous post which has now been deleted:

Not sure about this - there is a Harriet A Chadwick on the 1939 register with dob of 12 Nov 1928 not 1927. That person seems to have come into the country in 1934 having been born in the USA. On the 1939 reg she is living with parents Eddie and Hilda plus siblings Beatrice and James. These names all match the passenger list. The strange thing is that their proposed address was Henson Lane MIDDLETON.
In 1950 Eddie, Hilda and Harriet are at Hams Road on the e roll.
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I found her on 1939 census but only states married, and found walter on same census too. But not together on same census. Chadwick married alfred jones in 1958 and had 2 sons with him.
 
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