Waggon and Horses - Adderley Street

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Hi Folks
The theme of Trad Jazz pops up from time to time on the forum [e.g. Drovers' Arms and Salutation Inn] so I thought I'd mention another live venue for the genre.

Rather than clog up this page with loads of blurb, here's a link to the Waggon and Horses in Adderley Street, Bordesley

www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/adderleystreet.htm#Waggon-and-Horses

Just wondered if anyone could add to the recent stuff - did anyone go upstairs? Did any of you play here?

Even if you ain't into jazz, worth a look for the history and there's a bonus of a building plan.

The pub is still going but doesn't sell traditional beer so I don't go in myself, despite the fact that the tenants seem nice folk.

Cheers
Kieron

 

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Amended site address : https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/adderley-street/waggon-and-horses.htm

 

[Astoness]

have you been in there in recent years kieron

lyn

 

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No, but I am not adverse to a bit of old vinyl, pizzas and craft beer

 

[Richard Dye]

Amended site address : https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/adderley-street/waggon-and-horses.htm

Kierson, reading through the attached and others I have noticed that many of the Licensees only managed for a couple of years with a few exceptions. Was there an underlying reason for that or was that the way the breweries wanted it?
Thanks,

 

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Kierson, reading through the attached and others I have noticed that many of the Licensees only managed for a couple of years with a few exceptions. Was there an underlying reason for that or was that the way the breweries wanted it?
Thanks,

High turnover of licensees has always been prevalent in the licensed trade. Even today there is a rule-of-thumb that tenants will last for nine years. That is three years to get the place running as they would like it, three years to enjoy it, and three years to grow tired of it.

In 19th century Brum you had to be a sharp operator to keep your head above water. Many of the thousands who kept a pub lost money or went bankrupt. Of course, there were exceptions, often a highly charismatic character or somebody very good at making beer!

Breweries, once they got heavily involved with large estates would prefer the stability of a long-serving manager or tenant.

These are just a few of the reasons!