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the dolphin inn...warwick road

That's a super photo of the Dolphin and there are others on here somewhere. The date is not right for the photo though...too early by a few years at least I think. It's a keeper thanks.
 
Lyn

I think Rupert is right about the date, I don't think there was any photography in this country at all until at least 1850 and a photo that good wouldn't have been possible until a good few years later. 1888 is possibly nearer the mark.



Phil
 
Hi Lyn

This one looks to be about the same time, but we can see the toll gate house just a bit further down the hill. No date on this one I'm afraid.

Phil

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It looks like a kids pushchair in front of the pub. when did the come in. thought it was relatively recent (but obviously i'm wrong)
mike
 
hi folks...there is no date on the pic...if you read it again it just says that below is the for sale sign when it was up for auction in 1836....i would say the pic is much later than that...

lyn
 
I could not find when the Old Dolphin was constructed and I suspect it was very old. Described as the Old Dolphin Coaching Inn and sketched by Frank Taylor Lockwood just before it was demolished in 1930. His painting is on B Majic. The building looks quite delapidated in the newspaper photo and one wonders if it would have been replenished from that state and as you say the pushchair may be a lead to dating the photo anyway.
 
.just a little more info from the article..it was once ran by ex footballer fred lea...during ww1 he was in the 3rd battalion and won the military medal...but was wounded and gassed...he began his playing career in the old wednesday league and was given a trial in the birmingham city reserves...he then went to west brom and after the war he turned proffessional...but unfortunately the gas poisioning began to trouble him and he had to leave the game...he then turned publican...it also says he ran the dolphin before and after the last war....and the way he battled on after being gassed was nothing short of a miracle as the specialists said he would not survive that long...

lyn
 
Lyn

Thats our problem, we have learnt how to look at photos, but we have yet to learn how to read.

Phil
 
I think that both pictures could be close in date with PMCs being a little later. If you look at Lyn's picture the Inn seems a bit delapidated and I wondered if it would be revitalised from that state. Well it seems that it was. Look at PMC's photo and the lamp on the side of the building is missing (not the one on the front) and the paint and brickwork has been repaired. In fact the paint seems to be fresh. In the front window a white poster may be common to both pictures. Maybe the cart and blokes with caps are the same. The womans dress on the street maybe is nineteenth century do you think?
 
its very hard to tell rupert....of course if someone could make out on my pic whos name is above the door we could look it up in kellys....ive had a go but just cant quite make it out...

lyn
 
If we are playing guessing games then have a guess at this one. It still looks the same and the people look the same. The waggon is still there but it looks well loaded by now. In fact it looks as if the only difference is the appearance of a horseless carriage.

Phil

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This is the text discription with the sketch. Len. The Old Dolphin, Acocks Green, was replaced in 1930 with a new building. This drawing was re-drawn in 1936 from an orginal sketch made just prior to the demolition of the pub in 1930.
 
On the auction poster is says of the Dolphin inn, John Rabone was there for several years, as the landlord?. Len.
 
The pictures are not the same though are they. Mike's photo said to be 1927 is different and may be later than the one with the car on it. There is a drive or road off to the left and a lamp post that is not on the last picture so that would seem to indicate that Mike's picture is later and the one with the car on it might well be early twenties or so . Maybe someone can date the auto. If 1927 is correct then it only had a couple of years to stand and housing overflow from Brum was beginning to arrive. Foliage growth gives clues as well.
 
At the top of the hill on the opposite side of the road stands a row of shops. These shops were originaly a garage built in 1929 owned by Allder brothers So the tree's and hedgerows would not have been there on that date.
 
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This is Dolphin Lane in 1900, it ran form The Warwick Road near the Dolphin.
 
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