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Taylor, Samuel Arthur

Lydia Taylor

Lydia Taylor

Brummie babby
I've recently been building a tree on Ancestry and interested to learn the parents for Samuel Arthur Taylor as all search seems to have halted.
From what I have gathered he was born in Aston, Birmingham between 1890/92 and passed away Dec 1974

If anybody can shed a little light I would be very greatful!
Thanks in advance
 
hi there..i take it he is the samuel arthur taylor born 1890 aston birmingham who also worked on the railways? his employment record is on ancestry..if so all you need to do to find out who his parents were is to order his birth certificate....ref..6D 341

lyn
 
Lydia,

Doing a little bit of extrapolation on the 1891 Census, there is a 1 year old Samuel TAYLOR living with 22 years old Samuel A. TAYLOR at 25 Walter Street, Aston. The head of the household is Mary Ann WATSON who states that 1 year old Samuel is her nephew. But as Astoness says, you really need to order up his birth certificate which will cost you £9.25 online to be sure. Once you get back into the 1900s, if you want any certainty in your results, particularly with a common surname, you have to be prepared to purchase the occasional certificate.

Maurice
 
The above Samuel Taylor b189o (despite being listed as nephew) does appear to be the son of Samuel Arthur Taylor & Eliza Watson. On subsequent censuses they are both listed as Arthur rather than Samuel.
 
Granted, MWS, and that had passed through my thoughts too, but I haven't looked at subsequent censuses, and based on that census alone, it can only be inferred rather than proven information.

Maurice :-)
 
True Maurice, more information is needed to be certain and as you've mentioned a certificate or two may well be advisable.

The Samuel A in 1891 and the Arthur in 1901, as well as the Arthur Samuel on the marriage listed on Ancestry, are all listed as a wire drawer but of course that doesn't prove that the Samuel Arthur b1890 is his son.
 
Lyn,

I had to look at it twice, but it is what FMP transribe it as too - Nechells?

And MWS beat me to the reply! :-)

Maurice
 
Walter street Nechells actualy bears off rocky lane as you just past cheston road under the railway bridge on rocky lane
It was a small narrow road and the old original British road servieces as they was known in those days
road haulage and parcel delivery services later years it became british rail parcel services
it stretch along walter street corresonded with rupert street on the other side of rocky lane rupert street was in two sections
they why they named the pub as the prince rupertt as it was the end of rupertt street
rocky lane continued to the boundry where there was a traffic island bearing to the left was nechells park road
if you continued along walter street you would have come to the end of the road and thats where you are on thimble mill road bearing right up the hill you are on nechells park road nechells
The birmingham road services became british railway parcel services and now we have the royal mail post office mail services
the BrS used to have casual labour for evening shifts on there loading bays 25 Quid was the rate
blokes used to get there early in order to get a shift for the nights work Astonian;;;;
 
Lyn,

Although I had various relations living in that area, I never got to know it as we were living in south Brum when I was growing up. Once I started "moving about" it was generally to Soho Road area, which was straight across the city on two buses.

Maurice
 
Back to Samuel Arthur Taylor.
He began working for the Railway at Gravelly hill on 19th Sept 1904 giving birthdate 23 January 1890 which is the date given on his death in 1974 he transferred to Spon Lane in 1908.
He married Elsie May Coton in Dec 1911 ,(marriage certificate will have fathers name) she was living at 65 Arley road, Washwood Heath with her mother Harriet and stepfather William phillips in 1911 this must have later become Samuel and Elsies home as they are there in 1930 and 1950.
I would go along with Maurices theory about the family based on the fact that they appear to have stayed around the Gate, Saltley/Duddeston area area.(1901 Aston Church road,1911 College Road)
However given the exact birthdate 23rd Jan 1890, Lydia will have no problem obtaining the certificate at Birmingham Register office.

So many Taylors in the Saltley/ Duddeston area including my husbands family, almost as many as Smiths,lol.
 
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Hi all,
Okay so far I've gathered Samuel's parents were Samuel Arthur Taylor (listed as Arthur in most places) and Eliza Watson. - now further back;
Samuel Arthur Taylors parents were it seems William H Taylor and Elizabeth (Eliza) Hugh - back again
William H Taylor's parents were is seems William Taylor and Ann Cobb. This is as far as I have got and the matching trees and censuses seems to end. I can find absolutely nothing!
 
One correction - Ann Cobb is not William Taylor's mother but is wife's, Elizabeth Hough's, mother, and the wife of Samuel Hough. She re-marries Edward Cobb, registered Bham, Dec qtr 1850.

Ann's maiden name was McCrea and she married Samuel Hough, 24 Dec 1826 Edgbaston.
 
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That's very interesting and also makes sense of why my leads go no further. Hmm, going to have a dig in and see where I got the info for this to be paired :/ Now time to find out who the actual mother is haha
 
This is on the GRO - Births
Name: TAYLOR, SAMUEL ARTHUR Mother's Maiden Surname: WATSON
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 341
 
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