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St Mary's School Selly Oak
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lindyloo
master brummie
Hi again carolina, I have just thought it through and had a quick look for Mom's, cousin's, hubby's Mom, She was born in 1897 and if I have the right one, is listed on the 1911 as being born in Selly Oak. Her father was George Ellis, who was a Baker and Confectioner on the census and they were living at 260 High Street, Selly Oak, which I think was his business premises too..
lindyloo
master brummie
Hi carolina, Having looked at an old map of the area, I agree with you about High Street now being the Bristol Road.
Kelly's for 1913 lists 260 High Street as being two doors away from The Selly Oak Inn which was on the corner of High Street and Harborne lane.
It also lists, on the West Side...
St Mary's National Schools..then
"here is Frederick Road"
then
Taits Corner
1 Stamp, Miss
2 Rayner, Paul
"here is Lodge Hill Road "
Evans Cottage Homes
Newman, Samuel
St Mary's Church
So going with your original comment about where they lived maybe giving a clue, perhaps the St Mary's National School was the one ??
I've been trying to get onto the Visions of Britain site, as I think that is the one that helped me identify a school before, but I can't get on it tonight.. I will try again tomorrow.
Thank you for the great picture of the church, Elsie's two sons were baptised there, one in 1921 and the other in 1924.
Here is a map of the area showing the schools and where I think the house/shop was.
According to the kellys list above, I think I have missed the church off ??
lindyloo
master brummie
Lindyloo, the school doesnt look like that now, it has over the past couple of years goine through some more modernisation. My daughter did her first year of school there in 1971. The church you have highlighted would not be St Marys, that church is just further up the Bristol Road - just before you get to Weoley Park Road - my daughter went to girl guides there. I will have a look to see if I have got a photo of the church. Carol
Lindyloo just for a little info for the area.
The 1st picture is Evans Cottage Homes shown on the map and the 2nd one perhaps may be the church you highlighted further down the Bristol Road and the 3rd one shows St Marys Church although backing onto Lodge Hill Road you can see the Lych Gate is on the Bristol Road.
A little bit of info on the Cottage Homes. Although the homes are not there now, there is modern flats in their place and they are still for women only.
Site of the Homes (Selly Oak)
BUNDLE No. 1
This freehold property belongs to the Company and was purchased by them on 25th March, 1868, from Joseph Ledsam for £660, part of the original fund provided by Mr. Evans. It is held under a Licence in mortmain dated 20th March, 1868. It originally comprised 2 acres and 2 roods, with frontages of 156 yds. 1 ft. 6 in. to Bristol Road, Selly Oak, and of 156 yds. 1 ft. 6 in. to Church Road, Selly Oak. On 4th February, 1918, a strip containing 611 square yards was sold to Birmingham Corporation for widening Bristol Road. The Corporation built a retaining wall, and the price paid was £305 10s. 0d., the bulk of which was invested in £300 Manchester Corporation Bonds.
. Evans'’
Cottage Homes, Bristol Road, form a well
arranged group of buildings, consisting of nine
dwellings; they were built in 1868 by Alfred
Smith Evans, Esq., and endowed by him for the
support of ladies of reduced means.
Nine houses in three blocks fronting Bristol Road are built on this site. The land at present surplus is let as allotments, and provides ample room for future extensions.
The 1st picture is Evans Cottage Homes shown on the map and the 2nd one perhaps may be the church you highlighted further down the Bristol Road and the 3rd one shows St Marys Church although backing onto Lodge Hill Road you can see the Lych Gate is on the Bristol Road.
A little bit of info on the Cottage Homes. Although the homes are not there now, there is modern flats in their place and they are still for women only.
Site of the Homes (Selly Oak)
BUNDLE No. 1
This freehold property belongs to the Company and was purchased by them on 25th March, 1868, from Joseph Ledsam for £660, part of the original fund provided by Mr. Evans. It is held under a Licence in mortmain dated 20th March, 1868. It originally comprised 2 acres and 2 roods, with frontages of 156 yds. 1 ft. 6 in. to Bristol Road, Selly Oak, and of 156 yds. 1 ft. 6 in. to Church Road, Selly Oak. On 4th February, 1918, a strip containing 611 square yards was sold to Birmingham Corporation for widening Bristol Road. The Corporation built a retaining wall, and the price paid was £305 10s. 0d., the bulk of which was invested in £300 Manchester Corporation Bonds.
. Evans'’
Cottage Homes, Bristol Road, form a well
arranged group of buildings, consisting of nine
dwellings; they were built in 1868 by Alfred
Smith Evans, Esq., and endowed by him for the
support of ladies of reduced means.
Nine houses in three blocks fronting Bristol Road are built on this site. The land at present surplus is let as allotments, and provides ample room for future extensions.
lindyloo
master brummie
Hi carolina, Thank you for the great photos and information, it all helps to form a picture of what the area was like where they lived.
I realised after I had posted the map, that the Chapel I'd marked was wrong and that St Mary's wasnt actually on there, but it was getting late and I needed my bed
I had also been looking for the wrong website (definitely in need of sleep !) But I have found the site today and the information I found confirms what you originally thought about Selly Oak J being St Marys.. so huge thanks for that
I have done another map (1904) and also a snip of the information about the school
Here is a photo of George Edward Ellis and his wife Emma (nee Villers) with daughter Elsie May Brown (nee Ellis) that lived at 260 High Street. Also on the photo is my Moms cousins hubby as a small boy and his brother who was 3 years older.
I would love to find a photo of their Bakers shop/home .....
Thank you so much for your help, it is greatly appreciated.
I realised after I had posted the map, that the Chapel I'd marked was wrong and that St Mary's wasnt actually on there, but it was getting late and I needed my bed
I had also been looking for the wrong website (definitely in need of sleep !) But I have found the site today and the information I found confirms what you originally thought about Selly Oak J being St Marys.. so huge thanks for that
I have done another map (1904) and also a snip of the information about the school
Here is a photo of George Edward Ellis and his wife Emma (nee Villers) with daughter Elsie May Brown (nee Ellis) that lived at 260 High Street. Also on the photo is my Moms cousins hubby as a small boy and his brother who was 3 years older.
I would love to find a photo of their Bakers shop/home .....
Thank you so much for your help, it is greatly appreciated.