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Scott John of 109 Coventry St

K

KJSScott

knowlegable brummie
I have traced my Great grandparents back to 109 Coventry Street, this is were my Grandad was born in 1892.
My Great grandads name was John Scott and his wife was Mary Scott formerly Donoghue.
Our Family is Catholic so I assume my Great grandmother was from an Irish background.
My Grandmothers parents were John and Matilda Day formerly Rogers they lived at 1 Court 2 Vere Steet, I don't think they were Catholics.
My Grand parents when they were married both lived in Ashley Street which I cannot find on any map but I think it was in the Sherlock Street area and was destroyed in 1940 in an air raid.
My Grandparents then lived in 4 back 42 Vere Street, this the House I remember visiting when I was a Child.

Any help out there.
 
1891 census lookup please

James Scott
Living at 109 Coventry Street, Deritend in 1891
I could do with his birth date and birth place please
 
John Scott

Hello KJSScott & thanks for the correction,
Nearly got you 50+ James,s to sort out :rolleyes: lol

Oky Dokey, 1st rule of Searching,,don,t beleive what them lovely
"old uns" said,, cuz a few porkie pies got in the way even then,,
ps Ladies Never lied about their ages in "th old days eh!" ;)

Heres a "possible" taking into account slight differences,,,
John Alfred Scott married Bridget Monaghan in
July/Aug/Sept Quarter 1900, West Brom register vol 6b pg 1491

Now, this is only a possible,, Others to search yet Ok
Cheers John Y :cool:
 
John Scott

Thanks for the tip John.
Some additional Information, John Scotts wife was Mary formerly Donoghue.
I think Mary was resident at 12 Court Ashley Street in 1913 when my Grandfather was married, John was dead by this time.
 
Mary Scott

Hi again KJS, there is a Mary Scott age 40 a widow with a son
James age 9,, on 1901 census @ Blucher Street, B,ham
a possibility ? Do you know when husband John Scott died?

As you say you have Birth & marriage certs for G,parents can you
please post the Details,, dates & places, ages & witness,s
This info vital to trace acurately,, There are Hundreds of "Scotts"
B,ham & surrounds 1880,s-1930,s Ok & thanks :)
John Y :cool:
 
John Scott

Thanks John,

Here is all info I have at the moment-

My Grandfathers Birth Certificate -
Born -20/01/1892
Name - James, Born at 109 Coventry Street.
Father- John Scott
Mother - Mary Scott formerly Donoghue.
Fathers Profession - Travellers Porter

My Grandmothers Birth Certificate
Born - 28/04/1892
Name - Catherine, Born at 1 Court, 2 Vere Street.
Father - John Day
Mother - Matilda Day formerly Rogers.
Fathers Profession - Stonemason ( Journeyman)

The Registrar on both Certificates is Charles Preston.

I was looking on the Scotts side but any Information about any of the Donoghue, Day or Rogers families would be good.

Thanks
KJS
 
Day,s

Hi KJSS, heres a "probable" for you except Matilda saying "Ann":rolleyes:

1901 census RG13 piece 2863 Folio 116 page 40
John Day age 32 Police Constable born B,ham
Wife "Ann" age 32 , Daughter Catherine age 9,
Other children, James 6, winifred 3, Edith 1

A probable but needs cross-referencing 1st,
cheers John Y:cool:
 
Day-Rogers

Hi KJSS, a possible marriage Day & Rogers combination 1891
The year prior to Catherines birth,, usual ;)

Sometimes the Guys told porkie pies too :redface:
Your "John" day may have preferred John to being a William,,,
so rest of Family may have put him as John on their Marriage cert?

William Day married Matilda Rogers in Plymouth 1891
Oct/Nov/Dec Quarter, Plymouth volume 5b page 559

possible/probable,, Logistically, Year + Rogers & Day combination
a probable mathematical match,, The Matilda correct, just the "John" ?
Best regards John Y :cool:
 
John Scott

Hi KJSS I have found Ashley Street in my old Wakelin's Street Guide, you had the right area, it actually ran from 138 Bristol Street to Gooch Street, Birmingham.5.
 
There is one death between 1892 and 1901 of John Scott

John Scott aged 37 March quarter 1898 Birmingham ref 6D 65

I've searched for a marriage for John Scott and Mary Donoghue and can't find one. I wonder as you thought that Mary was possibly Irish, if they may have married in Ireland.
 
Mary Scott

To John Young,

You mentioned a Mary Scott living in Blucher street when the 1901 census was taken.
Her father was John Day, there is a record of a John Day living at 69 Blucher Street at the time of the 1881 census.
Do you know what address Mary Scott was living in Blucher Street in 1901.
If here husband John Scott had died in 1897 as one record suggests she may have moved back home.
 
Scott,s

Hi again KJSS

1901 census you require is, RG13 piece 2833 Folio 143 page 11
5 court-House number 10 (this is courtyard next to 67/68/69 Blucher St)
Mary Scott age 40, Head (of house) Widow, charwoman born B,ham
James Scott, son age 9, Jemmima Hughes age 72, Widow, born
Gt Bourton ?, Staffs (Probable Mary,s mother/In-law, relative someway?), also in same house is
Elizabeth Hughes age 48, Spinster, Charwoman, born B,ham,
Hoping this further assists your searches,
Cheers John Y :cool:
 
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John Scott

Di.Poppitt said:
There is one death between 1892 and 1901 of John Scott

John Scott aged 37 March quarter 1898 Birmingham ref 6D 65

I've searched for a marriage for John Scott and Mary Donoghue and can't find one. I wonder as you thought that Mary was possibly Irish, if they may have married in Ireland.
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Can you Look up John Scott of 109 Coventry Street in the 1891 census please.

Thanks
 
I have searched the 1891 census and can't find John Scott, I also looked for Mary Donaghue in case they married after the census was taken but couldn't find her either.
 
JoHn Scott

Hello Di.Poppit,

I seem to be hitting a brick wall with John Scott. I have my Grandfathers birth certificate James Scott which states he was born at 109 Covenrty Street on the 20th of January 1892, his father was John Scott and mother Mary Scott formerly Donoghue.
The birth certificate is a copy produced in 1924 , could there be mistakes on the forenames or address.
I have assumed that they were living at 109 Coventry Street at the time of 1891 census.

Any Ideas

Thanks
KJS
 
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