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Scott Arms

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The Scott Arms on the Walsall Road at Great Barr was built in 1800 and it is quite a unique pub when it was first built it contained a brewery a butchers shop as well as being an inn. It also had a magistrate’s room set aside for the trial of prisoners and behind the pub was a mortuary. Auctions also took place at the Scott Arms and in the 50’s the Roman Catholics in the area approached Michell and Butlers for permission to use the large barn at the back of the inn, as a church which the brewery agreed to and charged them rent of one shilling a year till they had enough money raised to build a church nearby.
The first photo is how it looked in 1916 ...the second in the 1950's
 

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The building that's replaced it is pretty dreadful - especially when you look at these photographs, Cromwell.
 
Thanks for posting the photo of the Scott Arms Cromwell. I had forgotten what the old pub looked like my Grandma lived just up the road.

Charlie I totally agree another ugly building from the 60's but still isn't as ugly as Central Library!
 
Thank you Cromwell For the Two pictures of the Scott Arms. The one brought back memories for my Husband, he and his friend held their joint 21st birthdays there in the early sixties.
maggie
 
My mom's family used the Scotts, as they always called it, and the early photo's show it as my mom would have known it when Newton Road was a quiet byway. Thank you for posting them.:)
 
Another lovely photo thanks. I can't believe the road once looked like this as Di says the Newton Road is just a quiet byway. I used to work in Oldbury a few years ago and it took me forever to get through the traffic lights at the Scott Arms........how things change!
 
Cromwell,

Thank you for posting those photos of The Scott Arms.

I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the following information (I’m sure someone will let me know if it is incorrect) but the following was given to me by a distant relative of mine who came across it whilst researching our family tree.

Joshua Henderson (born 21 Nov 1847) purchased his first public house in Irvin Street and also set up a wire manufacturing unit on the top floor. Business was so good he had a factory built in Henege Street, Nechells.

Apparently in 1897 (in a local Birmingham newspaper) there was an article featured Joseph celebrating his 50th birthday with a “Olde English Feast” at his second pub, The Scott Arms.

Fay
 
Fay, you were spot on...........It was renown for it food and the quantities you were served in the Victorian times the farmers use to hold auctions at the Scot Arms and the food that was consumed was quite staggering ...on a typical auction day two 80 lb rounds of beef were consumed by the farmers, drovers, shepherds and farmworkers..
On May Day which was a specialty of the pub they served over 150 ham and 2 eggs for 1/6 and if you wanted anymore after you finished you just helped yourself.....
What I do find strange is in the 50's the building was placed on the list of buildings of special historical and architectural interest so why was it demolished ? in the intrest of progress ? I don't think so ...
 
Cromwell

That's amazing and my mouth is watering just thinking of all that food.

May I ask you where you found this information only I am interested to know when my ancestor bought/ran The Scott Arms.

Fay
 
hi

few mor bits and bobs of the area.
Spent a few years in Sundial Lane 63 to 65.
Great area Cricket and Football in Redhouse Park.
the Scott Family house was turned into a Hospital
St Margerets I think.

Mike
 
Fay as someone who has been interested in old pubs for years I have a bit of a book collection of them dating back to the 1800c but not much about the Scott Arms only what I have posted....it was named after Sir Joseph Scott who's ancestral home was Great Barr Hall who squandered three inherited fortunes (easy come ..easy go .)
 
Cromwell

It would appear that being a "licensed victualler" (hope i've spelt that correctly) was very common in my family tree - not on one line though, I can trace several lines that had connections with running pubs.

My great grandparents ran The Golden Lion in Clifton Road, Aston, and before that "The Green Man" in Foleshill in 1901 (have previously posted a message re that pub).

A very good friend of theirs ran a pub in Nuneaton that I visited as a child but cannot for the life of me remember what it was called.

Can you recommend any good reading on public houses.

Fay
 
Fay the Pubs you are interested in would not be in a Birmingham Pub book or if they were only one or two lines, best bet is go to the library then if they have got a book you require get it from E-Bay or a good secondhand bookshop (but they can be quite pricey) The books that I could recommend are all out of print as I have not got one after the 1950's
And I do not know what the Scott Arms looks like today if their is still a pub their
 
Cromwell

The Scott Arms today is a very modern pub - never been in there but I live about 5 minutes drive away.

I am interested in finding information on the pubs I mentioned from about 1890 onwards.

I will take your advice and next time I go to Birmingham Central Library I will have a mooch about (time permitting) and see if i can find anything.

Many thanks

Fay
 
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