Ryland Birmingham Trade Mark

[marco from Trieste Italy]

Hi from Italy, I have find in the older things of my father this bottle, anyone can tell to me something about It?
Thanks and Sorry for my poor english...
Marco

 

[Astoness]

very interesting find...hopefully some of our members can help you

 

[marco from Trieste Italy]

Thanks, I hope to soo...ciao!

 

[A Sparks]

I've found this on Ebay Australia although the seller is in Yorkshire!

Antique RYLAND BIRMINGHAM Rubber & Wood Hand Stamp Printing BOTTLE ? Labels​

• Georgian House Collectables (36206)

Is this stoneware ginger beer bottle - flagon related ?. It is a flat rubber and wood hand stamp so it may just be for actual paper labels I don't actually know how this would work on a stoneware bottle before it was fired !?.

 

[marco from Trieste Italy]

I have find on eBay.uk this stamp but the owner doesn't know what is it

 

[A Sparks]

I have find on eBay.uk this stamp but the owner doesn't know what is it
View attachment 192375

Same as the one I found - no more information though! I think it's definitely the same company.

 

[marco from Trieste Italy]

Same as the one I found - no more information though! I think it's definitely the same company.

Yes, it's the same company, but is not clear what it produced...beer? Rum? Or perhaps pottery? ...mystery....

 

[Radiorails]

https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/threads/llewellyn-ryland-haden-st-balsall-heath.53895/#post-737320

This seems to be a similar bottle to that in post 10 of the linked thread.

 

[A Sparks]

Yes, it's the same company, but is not clear what it produced...beer? Rum? Or perhaps pottery? ...mystery....

I think the stone bottles would hold some sort of liquid drink, either alcoholic or non alcoholic.

 

[Radiorails]

My suggestion would be paint or varnish in particular, hence the type of cork.

 

[mikejee]

I would suggest the firm is Howard Ryland, who were a printer,label maker, wholesale stationer, pen manufacturer at 217 Bradford St, and that the item was an ink bottle. They were either glass of pottery , and always stoppered by a cork

 

[marco from Trieste Italy]

I would suggest the firm is Howard Ryland, who were a printer,label maker, wholesale stationer, pen manufacturer at 217 Bradford St, and that the item was an ink bottle. They were either glass of pottery , and always stoppered by a cork

Maybe you know in which years Howard Ryland was active?

 

[Pedrocut]

October 1873.

 

[Pedrocut]

There was a partnership dissolved in 1891, and in 1890 Howard Ryland were in St Paul’s Square.

 

[Pedrocut]

In 1891 Became The St Paul’s Printing and Label Co.
49, St Paul’s Square.

 

[mikejee]

The first reference to Howard Ryland in directories is in the Whites 1873 directory, when they were at 105-107 Newhall St.
They are not listed in 1872.The last mention of them as stationers and pen makers is in 1914, but they continue listed as just printers till at least 1921

 

[Radiorails]

I note, in the advertisement, that they supplied 'highly polished Mahogany boxes;, which might mean they polished the boxes themselves, hence the need for vanish, thinners etc.

 

[Pedrocut]

April 1891.