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Royal Artillery in Canada 1860's

sheri

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I found a gt.gt. uncle, Alfred Sutton b. 1840 who joined the army I think when he was 21 - he was a trained Gun Smith and was an Armourer in the army. He married in 1863 at Hastings and then went to Canada - he was there a few years as several children were born there. The family were well travelled and his wife & cheildre went with him.
I couldn't find much about why the army was in Canada in the 1860's. Does anyone know more please??
By the way for the ladies on this forum - his poor wife had about 16 children!!! But she outlived him.
Thank you,
Sheri
 
Bit of a late reply but one of my 'inlaw' relatives was in the Royal Artilary and this is a bit from his history

Owing to the probability of war with the Northern States over the “Trent” affair, the 10th brigade was diverted from the West Indies to Halifax. Irwin’s battery journeyed from Saint John, New Brunswick, to Montreal in sleighs during February 1862.

This is the Wiki info on the Trent Affair.

The Trent Affair, also known as the Mason and Slidell Affair, was an international diplomatic incident that occurred during the American Civil War. On November 8, 1861, the USS San Jacinto, commanded by Union Captain Charles Wilkes, intercepted the British mail packet RMS Trent and removed, as contraband of war, two Confederate diplomats, James Mason and John Slidell. The envoys were bound for Great Britain and France to press the Confederacy’s case for diplomatic recognition by Europe.
The initial reaction in the United States was to rally against Britain, threatening war; but President Abraham Lincoln and his top advisors did not want to risk war. In the Confederate States, the hope was that the incident would lead to a permanent rupture in Anglo-American relations and even diplomatic recognition by Britain of the Confederacy. Confederates realized their independence potentially depended on a war between Britain and the U.S. In Britain, the public expressed outrage at this violation of neutral rights and insult to their national honor. The British government demanded an apology and the release of the prisoners while it took steps to strengthen its military forces in Canada and the Atlantic.
After several weeks of tension and loose talk of war, the crisis was resolved when the Lincoln administration released the envoys and disavowed Captain Wilkes's actions. No formal apology was issued. Mason and Slidell resumed their voyage to Britain but failed in their goal of achieving diplomatic recognition.
 
Welcome to the forum GreyDJ - thank you so much for the information it gave me a real insight as to why my ancestor was in Canada. I know there is information about him in Kew but haven't managed to get there yet.
I'm sorry I've been a long time answereing haven't logged on for a few days.
Sheri
 
I don't know how long he was in the RA in Canada but a few years later in the mid 1870s he may have gone to Vancover to prepare coastal defences (shore batteries) against a possible Russian attack!
 
I also had a couple of gt uncles who where there in the 19th century and both married American women.
Most of the great civil engineering projects in Canada at that time were built by The Royal Engineers,and are still in use.
 
This is a very interesting thread especially regarding the Royal Engineers sent to Canada at the request of the Governor of British Columbia at the time Robert Douglas. I live within a mile of Sapperton named for the Royal Engineers and the adjacent now city of New Westminster. I travel on the original roads built by the Royal Engineers just about everyday. They were lead by Colonel Clement Moody and Port Moody named for him is just down the road from where I live. The Royal Engineers were based in Sapperton for their time in Canada and there is still a heritage building in New Westminster were their barracks were. The roads they built in the Fraser Canyon are in use in modern form today and how these small group of men hacked their way through the wildest country on the steep banks of the Fraser River is mind boggling. Many of the original Engineers stayed on in Canada after their work was complete in 1863. There is a small but lovely church named for the Sappers in Sapperton St. Mary the Virgin. New Westminster was going to be the capital of B.C. at one time so there is a lot of history around the area. Here is a website about the Royal Engineers in Canada https://www.royalengineers.ca/Journal.html
 
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Thank you everyone for all the information - you are right Jenny Ann it is interesting, more so now I know more. GreyDJ my ancestor went to Canada in 1863 - I don't think he was there in the 1870's because by 1871 he was back in Birmingham. By 1881 he'd been in Ireland. Five of his children were born in Kingston, Canada.
Sheri
 
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