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Plumbers Arms Edmund Street/Livery Street

Dennis Williams

Dennis Williams

Gone but not forgotten
I am doing a piece on Edmund Street, and just love this old photo of the buildings betwixt Margaret Street and Congreve Street...In the first photo you can see the lovely Norwich Union Building on the left, and in the rather run down buildings there appears to be a building with what I think is a Pub Lamp. Does anyone know the name of this pub, if indeed it is one...mikejee?


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Dennis,

There was a beer retailer at this position in the 1890's, but as you probably know the Trade Directory's do not give names that were given to beer retailers. What you need is someone with access to census information as they sometimes carry such information.
 
Phil said:
Dennis,

There was a beer retailer at this position in the 1890's, but as you probably know the Trade Directory's do not give names that were given to beer retailers. What you need is someone with access to census information as they sometimes carry such information.
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Thanks lads.....much appreciated....
 
On the 1891 census there is a Beerhouse Keeper (Ann Ovens) listed for Edmund St (Plumbers Arms).

Don't know if this is the correct or only Edmund St. It is in the St Martin's ecclesiastical parish.

There is also a William Proctor listed as Licensed Victualler for Edmund St (White Swan Hotel).
 
There is a Henry Cutts listed as Licensed Victualler listed for Hope & Anchor Inn Edmund St. This is ecclesiastical parish of Christ Church.

And a Walter Hollis as Beer Retailer for City Bar Inn Edmund St. Again Christ Church.
 
MWS,

My bet would be The Plumbers Arms, as the other two were licensed public houses and the Plumbers Arms was a beer house.
 
The 1892 ( and other) Kellys shows there is only one licensed premises between Margaret and Congreve streets and it is the one occupied by Walter Hollis, and it is on the even numbered side of the street.
I cannot find Walter Hollis on the Ancestry 1891 census but I do not think it is the Plumbers arms, as the 1892 Kellys lists both Walter Hollis and Ann Ovens as licensees in Edmund St and Ann Ovens is on the other side of the street between nos 153 and 159.
 
Mike - it is mistranscribed as Wallace Hollis on 1891 census. Listed after Masons College and before #12 then Medical Institute.
 

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A few pictures of the NU Building and others on the Aviva site...

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We can trace our heritage back to 1696. Our business began in an age of highwaymen but is as relevant to customers today as it was then.
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On the Edmund Street Thread there is a picture of the Belle Vue Hotel before demolition as indicated by Spargone in post 7, and originally posted by OldMohawk. To the left and just above the notice for 48 Bull Street you can see the ghost sign for Dallorzo. He appears in the post 14 of Kelly’s as a furniture dealer.

Edmund Street

I think this is a little clearer
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Wow...you lot are phenomenal....thanks so much for simply bothering....it shows the depth of research knowledge that no other site even begins to emulate! Doffs cap....exits left very satisfied.....
 
A drawing of the Plumbers Arms. Sorry no date. Signatory possibly “P B” was it Paul Braddon perhaps ? Viv
 

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