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PADDY or PARRY ?

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Would appreciate some advise please.

Recently discovered that my PARRY family may now have been originally the surname PADDY.

It has been suggested they may have changed their name due to the Irish influx into Birmingham.

The family were jewellers/goldsmiths/silversmiths before 1918.

My grandfather Henry John PARRY - on his Marriage & Death certificates and WWI records all show PARRY, we are known as PARRY today. But Henry and his siblings were registered as PADDY. (Siblings from:1883 to 1902) In the Aston Manor districts. But the 1891/1901 Census both show name as PARRY.

Today, I found that his father William Thomas Parry was actually married as William Thomas PADDY to Emily WHISTON in 1882 in Perry Barr.

Is there any way, I can locate how/when/where they changed their surname ?

Would this have been done officially through a solicitor, or just a declaration the local paper ?

When my grandfather married as a PARRY, would he had to produce his birth certificate, which now shows: PADDY ?
thank you
Vera PARRY
 
Hi VPD

This looks like your William on the 1881 Census


Name:Wm Thos Paddy
Age:20
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1861
Relation:Brother
Gender:Male
Where born:Birmingham
Civil Parish:Birmingham
County/Island:Warwickshire
Country:England
Street address:130 Gt King St

Occupation:Jeweller

Registration district:Birmingham
Sub-registration district:St George
ED, institution, or vessel:49
Household Members:NameAge
Wm Thos Paddy20
George Tooth12
Ann L Twick34
George Twick36
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2999; Folio: 110; Page: 25; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341717.

Normaly the relationship given is to the head of the house --

George 36, Head
Ann, Wife
George 12, Son
Wm Thos, Brother

I checked the image, names etc very clear so no mistake. Of course you may already have/know all this and sorted it.
As for your question re name changing, i think a lot of people did this and as you say, some did it through solicitors or a declaration in the news paper and some just used the new name they had chosen, i think the latter being the most used as people couldn't afford to pay for such things.


bren
 
The family on the 1881 is actually Tooth(not Twick)
George Tooth married Ann Levinia PADDY 1866 Birmingham
Ann Levinia PADDY registered 1847 Birmingham

1861
Hockley Street
George PADDY age 37 Jeweller
Emma 37
Lavinia 14
Louisa 12
Emma 8
George 7
William 1 month
 
Paddy/parry

Hi, Thank you for this information on the 1861 census, I was uncertain when I saw the surname myself. As William was actually Ann's brother.
thank you regards Vera.
 
Could this be your Ann Levinia Parry on the 1851 census?.


George PADDY Head M 28 M Jeweller Birmingham----
Emma PADDY Wife M 28 F Bonnet Maker Wolverhampton----
Lavinia Ann PADDY (Daur) - 4 F At Home Birmingham----
Louisa Jane PADDY (Daur) - 2 F At Home Birmingham----
Address: St George St 30, ---
Census Place: Birmingham Birmingham, Warwickshire
PRO Reference: HO/107/2058 Folio: 117 Page: 17 FHL Film: 0332119
 
brummie nick said:
Could this be your Ann Levinia Parry on the 1851 census?.


George PADDY Head M 28 M Jeweller Birmingham----
Emma PADDY Wife M 28 F Bonnet Maker Wolverhampton----
Lavinia Ann PADDY (Daur) - 4 F At Home Birmingham----
Louisa Jane PADDY (Daur) - 2 F At Home Birmingham----
Address: St George St 30, ---
Census Place: Birmingham Birmingham, Warwickshire
PRO Reference: HO/107/2058 Folio: 117 Page: 17 FHL Film: 0332119
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Good evening, sorry for delay in my reply. First chance to get on the computer for week. Yes, this is my family on the 1851 census. Do you know of any one also researching this line ?
 
Emily Whiston for Judy

Emily is shown as age 30 b. birmingham on 1891
1881 CENSUS
Dwelling: 3 (7 Court) Guildford St
Census Place: Aston, Warwick, England

Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John WHISTON M 52 M Birmingham, Warwick, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Jeweller
Mary WHISTON M 50 F Birmingham, Warwick, England
Rel: Wife
Frederick WHISTON U 22 M Birmingham, Warwick, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Pearl Button Maker
Emily WHISTON U 20 F Birmingham, Warwick, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Paper Box Maker
Lizzy WHISTON U 18 F Birmingham, Warwick, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Gold Chain Maker
George WHISTON 12 M Birmingham, Warwick, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
 
Re: Emily Whiston for Judy

:biggrin:
Thanks Alberta,
I don't suppose any one would know John's parents????
I don't have him as Sarah and William's son.
fingers crossed - Judy


Alberta said:
Emily is shown as age 30 b. birmingham on 1891
1881 CENSUS
Dwelling: 3 (7 Court) Guildford St
Census Place: Aston, Warwick, England

Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John WHISTON M 52 M Birmingham, Warwick, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Jeweller
Mary WHISTON M 50 F Birmingham, Warwick, England
Rel: Wife
Frederick WHISTON U 22 M Birmingham, Warwick, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Pearl Button Maker
Emily WHISTON U 20 F Birmingham, Warwick, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Paper Box Maker
Lizzy WHISTON U 18 F Birmingham, Warwick, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Gold Chain Maker
George WHISTON 12 M Birmingham, Warwick, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Click to expand...
 
Can any one tell me how to find out when and how my Frederick William Whiston b.1855 39 Warstone Lane Birmingham, left England to come to Australia. I have searched ships list, assisted and unassisted emigrants in Australia and come up with nothing, I do know he married Elizabeth Oxenham in South Australia in 1882.

his occupation is listed as merchant seaman. his father Frederick William Whiston senior was a druggist at 39 Warstone lane.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Judy
 
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