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NewInn Revived - Villa Street

many thanks for the info about the vine and the new inns revived kieron..

interesting info about the new inns revived as well which cant have been there since 1861 as i have a photo prob taken early 1900s of the new inns which was on the corner of hunters vale and hunters vale (.no mistake because hunters vale was and still is in a square)..it shows quite a crowd watching the cellar of the pub being pumped out after the brook flooded again...reason i mention this is because the list of landlords you have on your site must have been for the original new inns not the new inns revived just wondered if you knew this...cheers kieron you are a star ps the whole of hunters vale we see on your map was demolished and maisonettes built just before ww2 started...all the old courts and houses went...dad lived in one of the old courts and was re housed in a new maisonette next to the brook until he married..if you would like the photo of the original new inns you are welcome to it this is where it used to be within sight of the queens head corner of hunters vale and farm st which is now closed again

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.4...4!1sZoWDZoqetCB4r493gS7dxQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

lyn
 
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Hi Lyn, would like to see your pic as the only pub I have records for in Hunter's Vale is the Hunter's Vale Tavern, a boozer for which the licence was referred for compensation at the end of 1907.
Cheers, Kieron
 
Cor, what a bostin' image. I was being cagey with my map and didn't highlight the pub as I was not sure if it was the third building on that little terrace or the one on the corner. All trade directories suggest it was the former but I can see from your photograph that this is in fact the building on the corner - note the bay window matches the outline of the property shown on the map dated 1889. I had reservations about the corner building on the map because it seemed to show that it fronted Hunter's Vale rather than Villa Street, and whilst there is a doorway to Hunter's Vale, we can see that the main entrance is indeed on Villa Street. Of course, I am now going to beg you for use of the image to go with my info? What a cracking view - I nearly fell off my chair when I saw it!!
 
well i will go to the foot of our stairs kieron as for years i have had the new inns on the wrong corner...i shall now look at this photo with different eyes because if you look at this street view when dad and his family moved from the old court in hunters vale they moved into the maisonette to right of the brook which is behind the wooden fence and more or less on the ground where the pub stood...and of course please use the photo i have never seen another one of this pub please credit carl chinns archives....amazing thanks for correcting me

lyn

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.4...4!1sxURzSaBGsn5CSWXSLL41vw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
 
Thanks Lyn, yes you have a real connection with the pub now!! I think the brook flooded on a fairly regular basis - here's a newspaper article from July 1925....
 

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wow thanks i dont have that snippet kieron...yes the brook flooding was a regular thing ...bit off topic but i used to have to pass it every day going back and forth to farm st school and without fail every day i would look through the gap in the red fire door down at the water and quite a few times it would be so high you could almost touch it...quite scary really...i still cant get over that for years now each time i am down that way ive been looking at the wrong corner imagining the pub was once there just goes to show we never stop learning

lyn
 
happy to help your site deserves it..oh i know you may have to collect new bike on saturday but if not it would be great to see you at jewellers for our xmas meet up...thanks again you have made my day:) ps when time permits could you find out a bit about the hunters vale tavern please..never heard of it or its location...thank you
 
think we posted at the same time so you may have missed my last post ...thanks for that snippet pretty sure i dont have that one either it must have been so worrying living so close to the brook and conditions in the houses after constant flooding must have been awful...

cheers

lyn
 
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happy to help your site deserves it..oh i know you may have to collect new bike on saturday but if not it would be great to see you at jewellers for our xmas meet up...thanks again you have made my day:) ps when time permits could you find out a bit about the hunters vale tavern please..never heard of it or its location...thank you
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I think it was on the corner you thought was the New Inns but am not 100 per cent. Anyway, this reminded me of a discovery in my life. Many years ago I had a record shop in Dudley. I run it for years without realising it was once a public house. The fabric didn't suggest that it was once a boozer but it was marked as such on a detailed plan of the town that was given to me a couple of years ago!
 
how amazing i hope the building is still there i am now on a mission for a pic of the hunters vale tavern..fingers crossed

lyn
 
lol yes it did i remember it well..:rolleyes: got there in the end though...i have got addresses for about 5 or 6 ancestors living in villa st from at least 1861 so highly possible that some frequented the new inns pub hence the fascination for this street and its history one of them ran the post office...

lyn
 
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