New Street Station From 1854 - 1966

[Donbogen]

I think a lot of people comment about a golden past that never was. I too recall a lot of litter on the tracks at news Street and lots of other places too in the 60’s. There were constant don’t drop littler campaigns in schools and on TV.

I recall the Ad Keep Britain Tidy

 

[Richard Dye]

I think a lot of people comment about a golden past that never was. I too recall a lot of litter on the tracks at news Street and lots of other places too in the 60’s. There were constant don’t drop littler campaigns in schools and on TV.

I agree, particularly at New Street. It always seemed dirtier with much more litter than Snow Hill!

 

[Richard Dye]

I recall the Ad Keep Britain Tidy

Yes, I remember when they attached a litter bin at every or almost every bus stop. I recall Mr Tiday.

 

[mikejee]

It might not all have been untidy passengers. At that time, and on some lines till very recently train toilets discharged their contents onto the track and some of the litter might well have been toilet paper

 

[mw0njm.]

i remember that mike and the pong from the tracks

 

[Vivienne14]

Could it have been football fans, didn't they used to throw toilet paper around ?

 

[Vivienne14]

An aeriel view from 1930 showing Queens Drive running through the middle. It would later disappear with the 1960s redevelopment of the station.

 

[Ceool]

Pictures of the old station before redevelopment thank you.

 

[A Sparks]

A photograph of a London bus outside the Royal London Hospital, Whitechapel c1910 showing an advertisement for (I think) the LNWR train service from Euston or Broad Street Station to Birmingham.
Would that have been to New Street Station?

 

[Vivienne14]

I would have expected it to be New Street by c1910, but I think I can see "Moor" below the "R" in Birmingham. Is that what you meant to type instead of Broad ? So maybe it was advertising Moor Strret Station. But then I thought the trains only went to Marlyebone from Moor Street (I like Marylebone Station - sometimes used that to Brum, nice journey, but takes longer than from Euston). I also think it might say "40 trains daily" to the right of " Birmingham", but surely that can't be right, can it ?

 

[brummy-lad]

I would have expected it to be New Street by c1910, but I think I can see "Moor" below the "R" in Birmingham. Is that what you meant to type instead of Broad ? So maybe it was advertising Moor Strret Station. But then I thought the trains only went to Marlybone from Moor Street (I like Marlybone Station - sometimes used that to Brum, nice journey, but takes longer than from Euston). I also think it might say "40 trains daily" to the right of " Birmingham", but surely that can't be right, can it ?

I think it refers to trains leaving from Broad Street Station in London, it used to be a major station apparently.

 

[mikejee]

Moor St was only ona tempoorary site then and did not open fully till 1914, But, more importantly, moor st was GWR, not LNWR.. Definitely to New St

 

[A Sparks]

I would have expected it to be New Street by c1910, but I think I can see "Moor" below the "R" in Birmingham. Is that what you meant to type instead of Broad ? So maybe it was advertising Moor Strret Station. But then I thought the trains only went to Marlybone from Moor Street (I like Marlybone Station - sometimes used that to Brum, nice journey, but takes longer than from Euston). I also think it might say "40 trains daily" to the right of " Birmingham", but surely that can't be right, can it ?

Yes, the word does look like Moor and I wondered if it was a GWR train at first - pity only the WR is visible!
I had a look on Google, their London terminal appears to have been Paddington but there was a LNWR train from Euston to Birmingham.

The Broad Street relates to the old London Broad Street in the City of London which was once a major terminal (completely closed in the 80s) but I've found this from Wiki...

On 1 February 1910, the LNWR introduced a "City to City" service from Broad Street to Coventry, Birmingham New Street and Wolverhampton. The service only lasted for a few years before being withdrawn on 22nd February 1915 as a result of WW1.

...and yes, I was very surprised to read there were 40 trains a day!

 

[A Sparks]

Not really Birmingham history I know (sorry!) but interesting history of Broad Street Station for any of our Railway enthusiasts, I had heard of it but hadn't realised it was round the back of Liverpool Street Station and I know that area.

Broad Street Station - A Lost London Station - A London Inheritance

Broad Street Station, next to Liverpool Street Station served the North London Railway between 1865 and 1986. Now demolished and replaced by Broadgate

alondoninheritance.com

 

[brummy-lad]

Underneath Birmingham it says '2 HOUR EXPRESS' but I'm surprised that was possible in 1910.

 

[mikejee]

Searching gave this ,answer , though not sure how reliable it is

 

[Morturn]

Mike

A lot depends on the number of stops. I know a London Train from Lichfield Trent Valley will get to London quicker than a train from New St. The Lichfield train only stopped once on the way

 

[mikejee]

Agreed. But John mentioned "Express", so presumably few or no stops

 

[Vivienne14]

2 hours ? Yes, some trains were timetabled as that in 1913. And an advert showing 40 trains daily in 1911



Source : British Newspaper Archive

 

[Vivienne14]

A business service on early morning trains from Birmingham to London Euston and London Broad Street. Ingenious!


Source: British Newspaper Archive

 

[mikejee]

I don't think I have seen this one before of a very quiet New St Station in 1854

 

[Heartland]

D J Smiths book is an interesting and valuable account of New Street, or Grand Central as it was first known, the construction was made possible by the London & Birmingham Railway Act of 7th August 1846.

 

[brummy-lad]

I'm not sure if this video has appeared on the forum before, it was posted on youtube 3 days ago (John K. Wells), 'Back to Birmingham New Street in the 1960s'. Particularly interesting because the running numbers of the locos are clearly visible. There are several other John K. Wells railway videos including others around Birmingham.

 

[Richard Dye]

I'm not sure if this video has appeared on the forum before, it was posted on youtube 3 days ago (John K. Wells), 'Back to Birmingham New Street in the 1960s'. Particularly interesting because the running numbers of the locos are clearly visible. There are several other John K. Wells railway videos including others around Birmingham.

Thank you! Enjoyed it from a GWR person

 

[Donbogen]

I'm not sure if this video has appeared on the forum before, it was posted on youtube 3 days ago (John K. Wells), 'Back to Birmingham New Street in the 1960s'. Particularly interesting because the running numbers of the locos are clearly visible. There are several other John K. Wells railway videos including others around Birmingham.

Downloaded it

 

[NoddKD]

I think it refers to trains leaving from Broad Street Station in London, it used to be a major station apparently.