Muddiman William John

[mazoub]

Has anyone any info on William John Muddiman, born in 1896, Birminghman. His first job was at B.S.A, Montgomery St, Small Heath as a fitter. He married Ivy Sanders in 1920 in Aston. I believe he died in 1984 in the Coventry area.
He was my Grandfather who I never knew.
If anyone has any info no matter how small, I would be very grateful.
Many Thanks.

 

[mikejee]

Re: William John Muddiman

From the electoral roll he seems (assuming it’s the same one) to be on the 1918 list of absent voters at 15 Crown road as 502340 Spr., R.E.. I assume the RE stands for royal engineers.
In 1920 and 1925 he is still at no 15 with his parents William John and Florence Ann Muddiman
In 1930 his parents (I assume its not him and his mother) are still at Crown road.
There is another William John Muddiman in 1920 who is with Nelly and Francis A Muddiman at 289 slade road
A William John Muddiman is at 230 court road, Erdington with Anastasia Teresa Muddiman in 1939.
No mention of an Ivy, so either I have the wrong ones or possibly Ivy was too young (I think under 30) in 1920 and 1925 to show on the rolls and then they moved out of Brum
Mike

 

[Pomgolian]

Re: William John Muddiman

Not sure if you have this, but here is the marriage registration for them both. If you have the cert', or can get it, it will have an address on it, also their father's occupations.
That information will help if shared, for members to look up more details for you.
[SIZE=+1]Marriages Mar 1920 [/SIZE]
Muddiman William J Sanders Aston 6d766
Sanders Ivy M Muddiman Aston 6d766

Chris/Pom :angel:

 

[Alberta]

Re: William John Muddiman

William John Muddiman died Coventry 1984 birthdate given as 9th March 1896
William John Muddiman birth registered Apr/May/June qtr 1896 birmingham

1901 No 2 Court 18,Latimer street,Birmingham

William Muddiman age 28 b. Edgbaston Jobbing Bricklayer
Florence age 27 Leather stitcher Military work b.Oldham Lancs
Florence age 6 b. birmingham
William age 5 b. Birmingham

William Muddiman married Florence Ann Parkes 1894 Birmingham

 

[Alberta]

Re: William John Muddiman

Ivy May Muddiman died 1985 in S Staffs her birthdate given May 1899 which would make her excluded from the electoral rolls.

Willam Muddiman /Ivy Sanders son born 1921 John D Muddiman,I assume the D is David ther name of her father.

Ivy May Sanders birth registered 1899 Cannock
1901 Walsall Road,Cannock

David Sanders age 29 b. Cannock Painter in Edge tool works
Fanny age 26 b. Wrexham ,Denbigh
Frederick 4 b. bridgtown Staffs
Ivy M age 1 (she was about 22 months) b. Bridgetown
Cecil H age 7 months b. Bridgetown

 

[Astonian]

Re: William John Muddiman

hi there
just been reading the thread on the muddyman family
well during the 50,s and the sixtys and the seventys ,s
there was the muddyman sibblings whom ran a garage
motor repairs and car sales down along the pershore rd selly park for years along there
i was wondering whether they are your sibbling
as muddyman is,nt a popular name
and there is a chance they may be part of your tree
its worth checking and bearing in mind for future reference
get the cencus checked for there names
best of luck astonian ;;

 

[lencops]

Re: William John Muddiman

I remember Muddiman Greengrocer circa 1950`s, Small Heath area?. Len.

 

[mazoub]

Re: William John Muddiman

Thanks to you all for the info on my grandfather William John Muddiman. Its the first time ive used this forum and I am impressed with the responses, especially about him being registered with a Anastasia Teresa. More research into her now.
Also the green grocers and car sales.
Deffinatly on the right track with the right person.
Thanks again.

 

[bren]

Re: William John Muddiman

1911 Census --
MUDDIMAN, William John Head Married 16 years M 38 1873 Bricklayer Labourer B,Ham
MUDDIMAN, Florence Ann Wife Married F 37 1874 Leather Trade Oldham Lancshire
MUDDIMAN, William John Son Single M 15 1896 Errand Lad For Motor Works B,Ham
MUDDIMAN, Florence Daughter Single F 16 1895 Leather Trade B,Ham
Back of 183 Irving Street

Had 3 children, 1 died.


bren

 

[bren]

Re: William John Muddiman

Hi maz

I have found his army service record, there are over 30 documents plus his medal card. Looks like he was transfered on a number of occassions doing various jobs, Army Cyclist Core and Light Railway Workshop just to name two. He also spent 69 days in hospital after being shot. Some of these papers are in very poor condition but the others more than make up for them, a whealth of information.

Have sent you an Instant Message (top, right,under your name)

bren

 

[Alberta]

Re: William John Muddiman

Willaim J Muddiman married Anastasia T Prendergast
March 1918 Aston 6d 701

I cannot find reference to an Anastasia Teresa Prendergast but reference to
Anastasia Prendergast birth 1884 West Derby,Lancs
Anastasia Prendergast marriage ,1906 Aston
there are 2 male entries James Gough and John Morgan
Did she marry James Gough because there is Anastasia Gough around the correct age in West Derby 1911.?
If so why did she become Anastasia Prendergast again to marry William.?

 

[Elizabeth Redmond]

Re: William John Muddiman

I remember a Muddimans fruit and veg shop in Belgrave Rd Ballsall Heath early 60s
they also sold fish,my mom always bought our kippers there best ever

 

[mazoub]

Re: William John Muddiman

Willaim J Muddiman married Anastasia T Prendergast
March 1918 Aston 6d 701

I cannot find reference to an Anastasia Teresa Prendergast but reference to
Anastasia Prendergast birth 1884 West Derby,Lancs
Anastasia Prendergast marriage ,1906 Aston
there are 2 male entries James Gough and John Morgan
Did she marry James Gough because there is Anastasia Gough around the correct age in West Derby 1911.?
If so why did she become Anastasia Prendergast again to marry William.?

The plot thickens, how many wives did he have? I assume Prendergast was her maiden name and that she kept going back to that between marriages???

 

[lencops]

Re: William John Muddiman

Muddimans fruit & veg shop, Coventry Rd, Small Heath was opposite Grange Rd/Coventry Rd exit. Len.