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Medieval streets

Nice post Vivienne,

Good link to view Olde Birmingham when it was just a Ham- let and only worth a Fifth of Aston or Northfield,
also hoping they get the funding to superimpose Medieval over Modern yet already you can spot the Streets.

A real "History Find" well worth a look-see folks,
John Y
 
Any superimposing would be done the opposite way I think and most of this can be recognised on the 1890 OS map which is very accurate and can already be superimposed on Google Earth. If this technique was not used to produce the material I would be suprised. In any case it's accuracy is open to conjecture and is artistic in detail. Still nice to see. Just take copies and manually manipulate on the 1890 OS...you have the location of the corner of Peck Lane and St Martins so compare with the corner of King Edwards School and...well St Martins. Then manipulate the other streets accordingly.
 
Very interesting, I always wonder why it was that Birmingham became dominant over the surrounding settlements when some seemed to be bigger and more important. I know people seem to think it had to do with the market/fairs but I still wonder.

Don't know how much funding you'd need to get an A to Z and draw the medieval streets on top. :-)
 
I was surprised to learn that Coventry was far bigger than Birmingham until recent times. Hard to imagine...
 
Coventry is still the 11th biggest city in the UK and I think would have been an amazing sight in pre dissolution times, with 3 Cathedral sized churches in close proximty plus a number of large Abbeys as well.
 
Birmingham became the dominant city of the Midlands area to its Canals/waterways system transporting
HGV of its time and Birmingham was a "Free Trade " City whereas London & Bristol were Chartered/Guilds
so thousands came to B,ham in the Industrial revolution to ply there trades & wares,

Why should people pay a "Guild" was the feeling then,, Go to B,ham, no tallymen to pay.

ps London still gets in on the "Guild" charges though,, Anybody done their City & Guilds ?
Yep theres yer tallymen guv'nor.
 
Rupert said:
Just take copies and manually manipulate on the 1890 OS...you have the location of the corner of Peck Lane and St Martins so compare with the corner of King Edwards School and...well St Martins. Then manipulate the other streets accordingly.
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Will try that Rupert thanks.

Also thanks for the photos of the model Ell. Hard to believe all that green space.

The author of the blog talks about the video : "Exploring Medieval Birmingham". Be good to get a look at that too. I'm assuming it's a different video to the one that was posted on BHF based on the conjectural map (can't remember the name of the person who drew the map - abt 1930s ? Jonathan ...... ?) Viv.
 
No problem Viv.

There are four signs near the Bullring, including this one on Edgbaston Street's history

 
Thanks Ell. Stitcher posted this early 19th century drawing of the Manor House on the "St. Martin's" thread. Comparing the two is not as easy as I thought it might be. I can make out one of the timber framed buildings on the right, in front of St. Martin's Church. Don't think the timber framed building to the left in the model was still there in the 1800s. Viv.

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No problem Viv.

The Smithfield name only survives with this building Smithfield House corner of Moat Lane and Digbeth

 
I seem to remember being told that Birmingham had great sand; for making castings I suppose. However there was a confluence of streams and rivers in the area also. Not a great amount of water in any...but enough for the power requirements at startup and for a while. The Rae, Cole, Tame and various Brooks. All added together in reasonable distance to each other and on the edge of the mineral and coal rich Black Country. The vast forrested area that was (all cut down) afforded the means of making charcoal for Iron production...before the use of coke was developed. Then steam power was developed, above Hockley Brook and coal and it's movement by barge was already in place. Anyway, learned most of this from here.
 
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