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Me And My Dad

postie

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Christmas is a coming and I'm feeling rather sad
Cuz its at this time of year that I most miss my Dad

He was an honest man who worked hard all his life
Providing essentials for his kids and his wife

He was a big man, six foot twelve and a half, I believe
Strong as an ox, carried me round on his shoulders with ease

Never a man to cause trouble or do anyone any harm
He'd reason with people, while keeping his calm

Now don't get me wrong he could fight with the best
And anyone who tried him, he'd put them to rest

He'd tek me to town on the bus to the old Bull Ring
And on the way he'd show me interesting things

Like there's the Blues ground, they aint doing very well
And thats H P sauce cor blimey it daint half smell

We'd get off the bus and he'd buy me a cake and a tea
It don't sound very much but it was heaven to me

Just a raggy arsed kid out on the town with his Dad
They were the best times that I ever had
 
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Your dad wuold be proud that his ragged arse kid has grown into a such a nice man. :smitten:

A poem full of heart postie.
 
Hey Posite - good one! Is it because it's coming up Christmas do you think - I'm thinking about my mum a lot too. Beautiful poem. :-*
 
Absolutely lovely Postie, I think Chris is right, coming up to Christmas and may be we think of our "missing" parents more.   My dad used to take me around the motorbike shops [love motorbikes but a bit late for black leather I think]  every Saturday and then to Lewis in the basement for waffles.  Halcyon days.
 
I think all our parents knew just how important Christmas was to us kids. No matter what it cost them or what they went without themselves, they would make sure that it was special for us, I know that my own parents were in debt for months afterwards but they never complained.
The whole family would join in the preparation, kids making trimmings from strips of coloured paper with glue nicked from school. Grandma would spend weeks cooking treats, like mince pies.
And Christmas Day was a very special time, not loads of expensive presents, just good sensible things like a doll for the girls and for the boys maybe a gun.
It was the one day of the year you could guarantee it would be warm in our house.
You'd rush outside to see what your mates had been given, that was just as much fun.
So remember your parents cuz they are what made you what you are.
God bless everyone.
 
Postie I loved your poem its a cracker, but I also have to say your last post took me straight back, especially the bit about being warm, Xmas and warm go together dont they? Your spot on with the prezzies too, although in retrospect while I loved xmas as a child and the presents I got were great, there was so much more to it, a fantastic feeling of love which I cant put words to.
 
what can I say your dad must have been one hell of a nice DAD ,but some of the kids weren't so lucky
as times were hard for families in those days.
may I say Postie your dad certainly left a son he could have been proud of, Proud of the words that you have written about him the words that you have written come straight from your heart ,keep them safe and in times when you feel down just you read them again remembering all those happpy times that you shared together
Best Wishes Postie   ;D
Reggie   :angel:
 
Christmas is a coming and I'm feeling rather sad
Cuz its at this time of year that I most miss my Dad

He was an honest man who worked hard all his life
Providing essentials for his kids and his wife

He was a big man, six foot twelve and a half, I believe
Strong as an ox, carried me round on his shoulders with ease

Never a man to cause trouble or do anyone any harm
He'd reason with people, while keeping his calm

Now don't get me wrong he could fight with the best
And anyone who tried him, he'd put them to rest

He'd tek me to town on the bus to the old Bull Ring
And on the way he'd show me interesting things

Like there's the Blues ground, they aint doing very well
And thats H P sauce cor blimey it daint half smell

We'd get off the bus and he'd buy me a cake and a tea
It don't sound very much but it was heaven to me

Just a raggy arsed kid out on the town with his Dad
They were the best times that I ever had

Hi Postie.

Forgive me I'm still fairly new and learning about this site.
Thank you for taking on the the admin [it seems] again.
I'm not quite sure what you do, but it seems honorable and probably a large sacrifice of your time.
So along with the others, I'll add my thanks.

Here's my Christmas Eve 1953.
I had to accompany Dad to Hickmans, in King Edwards Road to buy the turkey.
A wel lheeled man pushed in front of Dad waving a five pound note, which was a considerable amount and a considerable size then.
Dad who was waiting his turn with a the number of people, Shouted 'Stop! my money is as good as his!'
Perhaps he thought we might miss out and not have 'a bird' for Christmas.
We did purchase a large turkey, which I carried home, pavements glistening with a frost.
Dad went on to the Ivy Green [pub] in Edwards Street to pay his subs in some sort of workman's benefit scheme that came out of the depression and no doubt had a half with a few old friends.

ladywood
 
I loved reading that about your dad postie. It made me think of my dad and how I miss him so much. Some of these people worked hard for what bit of money they had, but they were always generous and never let us do without did they? My dad would take me across the road to school right up to the day I left, and every day he would put a threepenny bit in my hand. Bless him.
 
Ladywood, I see you knew quite a bit about King Edwards Rd. Did you know the 'Mitchell family' ?
 
Ladywood, I see you knew quite a bit about King Edwards Rd. Did you know the 'Mitchell family' ?

Hi Maggs, Sorry I don't know any 'Michells, just 'Mitchell's and Butler' which my Uncle Ted favored and Ansells which Dad preferred.

ladywood
 
I loved reading that about your dad postie. It made me think of my dad and how I miss him so much. Some of these people worked hard for what bit of money they had, but they were always generous and never let us do without did they? My dad would take me across the road to school right up to the day I left, and every day he would put a threepenny bit in my hand. Bless him.

Dad always repaired his own shoes.
There wasn't much I could take when he died.
But I have one pair of his shoes [black] in my bedroom which I dust from time to time, so many years of polish, there's no need to clean them.

ladywood
 
That's lovely Ladywood, bet you treasure those shoes. I have my dad's old wind up watch which of course no longer ticks (bit like me dad). When my dad died he had 3/6d in his pocket and a few Park Drive fags. He preferred Ansell's beer.

Perhaps the Mitchell family were a bit before or after your time then. I remember King Edwards Rd well, and going to Hickmans, I don't think you can but veg today like they used to sell. In those day's when you bought potatoes, baking ones always came with them, unlike today.
 
That's lovely Ladywood, bet you treasure those shoes. I have my dad's old wind up watch which of course no longer ticks (bit like me dad). When my dad died he had 3/6d in his pocket and a few Park Drive fags. He preferred Ansell's beer.

Perhaps the Mitchell family were a bit before or after your time then. I remember King Edwards Rd well, and going to Hickmans, I don't think you can but veg today like they used to sell. In those day's when you bought potatoes, baking ones always came with them, unlike today.

Here is a story about being 8 years of age, but mentions Hickmans in passing.

The Barker Street Triangle.

I always ran home from school, hopping and
skipping over the cracks. So that I could be at Barker
Street by 5:00 pm. I flew past Tailbys timber yard,
the screeching sounds of the saw rising in pitch as it
sliced it's way through the Baltic pine. Showers of
sawdust flying into the air, wood stacked in neat
rows with coloured sawed through symbols and words
opened up to the weather and the air, the smell of the
pine was intoxicating
Flying on down the hill, past the factory on the
other side of the road that skinned rabbits. The yard
was piled high with brown rabbit skins.
Over Vincent Street past Hickmans the grocers.
In large white enamelled trays on a white marble
slab. cold mackerel with their dark blue stripes and
red eyes, balefully looked at you. Eels with black
tops and aluminium painted stomachs still moved.
There was always a pile of black mussels dripping
water and flecked with bits of bright green seaweed.
The fishmonger wore long black wellingtons and
emptied buckets of water onto the footpath, I
splashed past and guessed at the time. Over Nelson
Street and Garbett Street I turned left into my
street and home.
The key was under the window box, I opened the
door and checked the time, 4:27.
There was a brush and pan to clear out the ashes
of the previous night and a copy of the Birmingham
Mail to provide the base for this nights fire.
Sometimes I had to chop wood but most times it was
already cut and held together by a dark red rubber
band. With the head of the axe I smashed the big
lumps of coal, shutting my eyes just before impact.
Pieces of coal would sting my face, richoctte of the
coalhouse walls and down my neck. 4:47.
Two old infirm spinsters lived at the bottom of
our yard, they were sisters. Every week night I had to
check if there was anything that they needed. Simple
things like fire lighters, a can of soup, occasionally
snuff. It wasn't uncommon to see old men take snuff
but it was unusual to see women take it. The snuff
smelt of tobacco mixed with spice. The younger
sister had bright blue eyes and small delicate hands.
She alway offered me threepence for running
errands, I always refused, she always insisted.
One box of fire lighters, one small loaf and
threepence for my trouble, 4:58.
Running up to the top of the street, I turned into
Shakespeare Road and then right into Barker Street.
This street ran parallel with the Birmingham to
Wolverhampton railway line. On this line every night
the Glasgow to Birmingham express steamed the last
mile of it's journey into New Street Station. Towards
the end of Barker Street it curved closer to the
railway line squeezing the brick red back to back
houses until they ran out and ended in a small factory.
The factory made brass buttons, it had a giant
press that would spit out small buttons without ever
seeming to pause. Crump hiss, crump hiss, thousands
of bright yellow buttons would spill out over the
earthen floor. To the left of the factory using well
worn foot holds I scaled a rough blue metalled wall,
and dropped down into a small triangle of waste
ground. Draped over a wooden fence overlooking the
railwayline were half a dozen boys. "Have I missed
her?" "No, nothing yet." It was 5:10.
24 pairs of eyes searched the gloom for signs of
the approaching train. To the right almost opposite
the fence stood a small wooden signal box, painted in
LMS colours cream and a dark red. If you peered
closely the lights inside the box showed the
signalman, sleeves rolled up with an unbuttoned
black waistcoat. We watched and listened for the
smallest sign. Nothing, he was just making a cup of
tea. We could hear the spoon tinkle as he stirred the
pot. To the left of the box on the up line was a signal,
it's arm lay in a horizontal position and it's lamp was
red. Further up and on the other side of the line was
another signal which came under the keenest
scrutiny, this was the downer.
It was impossible to see the signals lamp, but
the horizontal arm told us there was nothing doing.
"Do you think it's been cancelled ?" "Nah she's come
through later than this." Ding, ding. It sounded like
two bells, you could have heard a pin drop. "What was
that ?" There was no movement, perhaps it was just
his spoon, another latecomer slipped over the wall. It
was 5:17.
Ding, ding. There it was again. The silhouette of
the signalman moved towards one of the twelve
brass levers and with a cloth wrapped around one, he
eased it forward, The end of the signal arm nearest
the upright post slipped down, the other end pointed
upto the sky, One hundred yards down the line, right
in front of our eyes the points clanked home.
"Pegs up on the downer!" Thirteen heads turned
and all ears tuned into any sound that would now
come from the two nearest lines. In every head now
there was only one thought, "Don't let it be
Polythemus." 550521 Polythemus was a train that
haunted us, night and day it turned up everywhere.
Sometimes the only reward for three hours waiting
on a slow wet Sunday afternoon would be Polythemus
shunting backwards and forwards trailing black
mushroom shaped clouds behind her.
The lines began to jangle. We looked down the
line intently, it might be a "Pate" [a shortening for
the Patriot class], or more frequently a "Scot"
[Scottish class]. We could tell which class of engine it
could be at some distance, because on the front of
the engine were two large plates mounted in a
vertical position, that slipstreamed the smoke from
the funnel up and away from the following carriages.
The slightly different outlines described to which
class the engine belonged. We called them blinkers.
"Looks like a Scot." "No it isn't." "It is." "No it
isn't." "It isn't a Pate, is it ?" Even the older more
knowledgeable boys were unsure. 5:19
Ding! Ding! "Pegs up on the upper!" Another train
was making it's way out of New Street up the line.
Eyes widened, notebooks open, the grip on our
pencils tightened, two trains at the same time, it had
happened before, the train coming down the line
would mask the other going up it. We could hear the
train coming up the line, slowly gathering speed it
pulled its carriages up the line through a long curving
tunnel. You could here it chunting and hissing. Bam
bam bam bam, it came nearer.
The down line jangled with more intensity. "It
can't be a Semi can it?" I'd seen a Semi [semi
blinkered] once before, Princess Mary Rose. A giant
maroon steel monster hissing steam, flashing wheels,
shaking the ground, thundering up to the north. But
that was on a different line. What ever was looming
towards us, I had never seen before.
Bam Bam Bam Bam Bam Bam the train on the
upper black smoke belching from it's stack
hammered towards us. BAM BAM bam bam [under a
bridge] BAM BAM BAM BAM up the long curve it came.
"It's a Scot! it's a Scot!" Number 5445, in vermilion
letters on black background over the pounding
wheels, The Royal Inneskillen Fusiliers.
SCREECHSCREECHSCREECH the steel rails howled the
arrival of the large dark shape bearing down upon us.
The train was close enough to see her swaying as she
came towards us at speed. "It's a Brit it's a Brit! look
at the blinkers it's a Brit!" The only Brit I had ever
seen was in a grainy black and white photograph. I
watched transfixed. Still swaying she was almost
upon us. The black shape became one of dark green,
her steam scalding the track around her. Orange from
an open firebox lit up the fences and the rails around
her, sparks like the tail of a comet streaming over a
gleaming and glistening bulk she slithered past us
hissing like a giant cobra.
5:23.p.m. Number 70000 first of her class,
Britannia.
 
Maggs i used to play football and cricket with Dennis Mitchell


Mossy
 
Hello Ladywood

My husband has just been reading about your train spotting days. So out came his Ian Allan 1961 spotters book, and wanted me to tell you that Polythemus Jubilee Class No. was 45688, do you agree?
 
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Hello Ladywood

My husband has just been reading about your train spotting days. So out came his Ian Allan 1961 spotters book, and wanted me to tell you that Polythemus Jubilee Class No. was 45688, do you agree?

Hi Maggs, From memory I'm pretty sure your husband is right.
Unfortunately, I lost my copy of Ian Allan's book at least 50 years ago.
I habitually keep an eye open for one at a village feat or a charity shop.
It seems to give life more substance.

ladywood
 
Oh Ladywood what a shame. I will keep my eyes open for one for you, bet they are hard to find. Wonder if someone on the Forum might have one. Have you looked on ebay, amazing what's on there.

My husband didn't want to be a know all, but wondered if you or he were right.

Maggs
 
A lovely photo Patty

Here's one of me and my Dad on the beach at Bournmouth.
 
Oh Ladywood what a shame. I will keep my eyes open for one for you, bet they are hard to find. Wonder if someone on the Forum might have one. Have you looked on ebay, amazing what's on there.

My husband didn't want to be a know all, but wondered if you or he were right.

Maggs

Hi Maggs, If I haven't got Ian Allan there is Google and a correction in spelling.

Polyphemus.
February 1936 Built at Crewe
Makers Number: 286
Lot Number: 121
Original LMS number: 5688
February 1936 Named Polyphemus
May 1948 Renumbered 45688
September 1950 Based at Longsight
January 1957 Based at Bushbury
November 1959 Transferred to Carlisle (Upperby)
July 1962 Transferred to Carlisle (Kingmoor)
December 1962 Withdrawn
January 1963 to May 1963 Stored at Carlisle (Kingmoor)
June 1963 Cut up at Crewe Works

All the best.

ladywood
 
Thank you very much Ladywood. I will now call my husband to have a read of all that.

Maggs:)
 
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