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rowan

rowan

Born a Brummie
Please, can anyone help me with a look up for the death of GEORGE WILLIAM MARSHALL b1890?

He married CAROLINE SMITH in 1913

They lived at Victoria Place of Webster Street. He was there in 1970 but I can't find a death for him.

They had at least one child Dorothy.

He worked at Lucas for awhile but when I don't know.:blush:

I know his wife(Caroline) moved to Erdington when the houses were demolished but did George go with her??:confused:

I didn't know this side of the family at all except my Great Aunt Carrie who I meet only a few times in 1955/56.

If anyone can help I would be very grateful.
Thank you :1113:
 
Re: George marshall

A quick glance though the BMD shows a George William Marshall, born 16 Jan 1891, Died April 1989 aged 98 in Pontypool, Monmouthshire. I don't suppose that's him, is it?.
Pontypool, April 1989, volume 28 page 1168 if it is.
 
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Many,many thanks Lloyd for taking the time to look. Yes I think it is the George I am looking for as his daughter went from Aston to Wales:)

I don't think Gertrude(Marshall) and George(Marshall) were living together so can I be cheeky and ask if you could lookup Gertrude's death please? She was born 1890 and the last I knew of her she was living in Erdington in the 1970's.

Again Lloyd, many thanks for that great result I am really,really grateful.
:):angel::1113:
 
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Rowan do you have this ?
1891 Census
Place: Aston -Warwickshire
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical Parish: St. Mary
Address: 117 Phillips St

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born MARSHALL George W Head M M 22 Gun Finisher(Em'ee) Overseas - British - East Indies Brit Sub
MARSHALL Annie M Wife M F 22 Warwickshire - Birmingham
MARSHALL Florence A Dau S F 2 Warwickshire - Aston
MARSHALL George W Son S M 3m Warwickshire - Aston

Chris/Pom :angel:
 
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Many thanks Pom, yes it does look like my George.

Fancy his father born in East Indies!!:shock:

Is there away I can find out his parents names??
 
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Rowan this could be the marriage as it was the only one that came up with those initials G W & A M and would also fit in with what looks like Florence's birth also the only one to come up.

The Marriage will have both father's names on.

[SIZE=+1]Marriages Sep 1888 [/SIZE]
Marshall George Walter Aston 6d340
Robinson Annie Maria Aston 6d340

Births Dec 1888
MARSHALL Florence Annie Aston 6d388

Chris/Pom :angel:
 
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GEORGE MARSHALL DAD WAS JOSEPH A GUN SMITH/ AGE 44 IN 1891.
WIFE Mary ann born middlesex london age 46.

Children elonor age 15 born birmingham
frederick born jersey age 12
lyder born limerick ireland age 10
eva born birmingham age 7
edith born birmingham age 2
George was born in east indies age 22 gun inker
annie marrie born birmingham age 22
florence born birmingham
george 3months born birmingham.

ALL LIVING AT 117 PHILLIP STREET BIRMINGHAM.
GEORGE IS DOWN AS GEORGE H Marshall in 1891 in 1901 George w Marshall.

hope this helps Andy:)
 
Caroline Marshall

Please can someone kindly look up the death of CAROLINE MARSHALL b.1890 ASTON.
I believe she was still alive in the 1970's and may have lived to an old age.

Her husband died in PONTYPOOL WALES in 1989 but was she there too?:confused:

The last I heard of her she was living in Erdinton after moving from Aston due to the slum clearence.

Many thanks for all your help.:)
 
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Hi rowan

I went through all the 70's but i wonder if this is the one in 1980

Caroline Marshall 1st qtr 1980 Birmingham 32 0382

It gives her birth as 18 JY 1891 and i think you have her birth as the 3rd qtr 1890 so could be a miscalculation, also there was no Caroline Smith birth in 1891, B,ham or Aston


bren
 
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Hi rowan

I carried on looking but couldn't find anything better than that one and now Ancestry is playing up again, i think those bloomin banner adverts have a lot to answer for


bren
 
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Rowan I have been to the library today and could not find Caroline in Erdington. Webster street was out of use from late 1972.
I have found out some strange info on these two.
I was wondering if someone out there can find the son which I believe they had.
George did die in Wales and Dorothy signed death records.
Andy
 
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HELLO EVERY BODY CAN ANY ONE FIND dorothy,s birth for me as I have looked and can not find it I ahve found 1915/1923.Thankyou ANDY
 
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Rowan could any of these be yours?
I know all the dates don't telly, but there could be some miss-calculation somewhere maybe

9/3/2000 Mrs Gertrude Alice Marshall 97 Years
Hasbury Nursing Home Middleton Hall Road Northfield Birmingham
Lodge Hill Crematorium

25/4/1997 Miss Winifred Gertrude Marshall 97 Years
Tudor Hill Nursing Home 11 Tudor Hill Sutton Coldfield
Sutton Coldfield Crematorium

7/4/1999 Mrs Millicent Gertrude Marshall 83 Years
50 Valley Road Solihull West Midlands Yardley
Crematorium
 
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Thank you all for your help.

Pom: sadly none of those you found are my Caroline as she had no other name...........but thank you for your time :)

Andy: That is Caroline's daughter Dorothy D born 1919 that Pom has found. She was 2 yrs younger than her cousin Rachael b Feb 1917. ;)

Bren: Thank you, that could well be Caroline's death......that would make her 90 years old. Her birth was Sept. 1890 Aston 6d 404. She was a twin to Gertrude b. Sept 1890 Aston 6d 404 :)

Thank you all so much for your efforts I am so grateful to you all.
:1113: :2006: :1221:

Andy: The search goes on!! :biggrin:
 
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POMGOLIAN where did you find Dorothy records as I have just been on ANCESTRY.
thankyou for this I believe they had a son which died any ideas on how to find if they did.
thankyou
 
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Andy you never said what the boy's name may have been and there are a few with the names: Marshall and mother Smith between 1913 and on.., born Aston...
However if it was George could this be him?:
Births Mar 1916
Marshall George E / Smith / Aston / 6d970

Deaths Sep 1917
Marshall George E / age 1 / Aston 6d380

I do a lot of research here Free BMD

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
 
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Hello pom I dont know the lads name all I know is what my mom told me.
Is that george Marshall who worked at Lucas, I dont even know which Lucas. Had a daughter and a son but the son died early in life, the wife took both children and only came back when the son died.
I know that George lived by the Aston Hiperdrome in the late 1930's early 40's.
The george which I believe married caroline smith,
I have looked on the records for this time and know george was living there in 1918 but there is no record of caroline but she is back on the records in 1924.
As they married in 1913 I dont understand this, could she be living there and not on the records.
7 court2 victoria place which was off webster street Aston,
any good ideas please help.
Andrew
 
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Andy, I do know that Caroline was living there in 1955/56 as I used to take my Saturday night "going out to a dance dress" and changed in her house!!

I do vaguely remember Dorothy but never remember ever seeing George there but then I wasn't there for more than a couple of hours.

I will keep digging into the memory pot and see if I can find anything else out.
 
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Andy you could apply for the Birth and death Cert's and state that you only want them if the parents and may be the infoment are George and Caroline Marshall.
They will give you heaps of info' including addresses at the time,
they cost about seven english pounds each.

Chris/Pom :angel:
 
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Please, can anyone enlarge the photograph I posted of Gertrude Smith?
It is only a small photo to begin with and I'm not to good with uploading and such.................sorry:cry:
 
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Rowan I know they both lived there until 1972 but then I have no answer I have looked at the records for Erdington but no luck.
I have ordered the death records from pontypool as I am hoping this will give me the answer one way or the other.
As there was twelve born in the area in 1890's.
I have been checking everyone of them. But it is coming back to George every time.
dorothy became a wanty sometime because she is on the records with her husband at 7 VICTORIA PLACE.
I know the GEORGE I am looking for lived down an alley in Aston by the Hipperdrome, And Victoria place ran from Webster Street to Burlington Street.
I believe there was two familys living the area one at 35 Burlington Street and one on Phillip Street which were very close to Victoria Place.
In early 1900's. One of these I believe are his family as both had a son called George, between 1890 and 1892.
Thankyou ever so much Andy
 
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pom that sounds like a great Idea, I will try tomorrow and see what they say.
thankyou Andy
 
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Hello can anyone tell me how I find out if Arthur O Marshall born april 1922 was the son of George Marshall and Caroline Marshall/Smith before marriage.
Or do I have to go and ask about the death records.
Thankyou
 
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BMD index shows Arthur O Marshall birth registered 2nd quarter 1922, Aston, volume 6d page 885, had mothers maiden name Smith.
 
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I have got that Lloyd but is there any way of finding out if GEORGE was the dad.
Thankyou
 
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