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ELIZABETH1

master brummie
I have two members of my family who married at St Martins B'ham

16th October 1837
John Clifton and Sarah Savage

On my cert it shows that they lived B'ham Heath - Kings Heath - were they Gypsy famillies?

I heard that someone did go off with the circus, acting, gypsy people etc.. I am wondering if this was the persons.

What was the "Heath" Kings Heath?

Would the Church Records give me a better picture? I am just curious whether other information was available for these people?
 
Hello Elizabeth, after 1837 the marriage's are registered so the ciertificate you have if it's from Birmingham will be a copy of the register the same as I have. I did check to make sure but there is no other information. I have received certificates for 1837 that have not had a full address when I know they lived in a certain street. I am not sure what "the Heath" Kings Heath means but I am sure someone on here will have the answer.
 
Hi Elizabeth,most of the area south of the city was known as Birmingham Heath during the 15th-16th centuries,by early 1800s they started to name distinct areas Kings Heath,Kings Norton etc.
In 1837 Kings Heath would still have been a farming area "..surrounded by heathland and marsh..",it began to develop with the building of a railway station in 1840 and by 1883 when the trams arrived it was a rapidly growing residential area.
You say..."On my cert it shows that they lived B'ham Heath - Kings Heath -" are the "K..H your words,or is this on the cert.
There must have been a number of "heaths" around Birmingham... Balsall Heath (Balls Hall heath),West Heath,Washwood Heath,so it may not be Kings Heath.


Colin
 
Thanks Wendy that might then suggest an address,I have looked through everything I have got on Kings Heath and can find no reference to anything that may have been known as "The Heath",such as a pub or large house,except possibly Kings Heath House,could that have been known as the heath ?,it was built around 1832 and still exists in Kings Heath Park.
I was not able to find them on the 1841 census perhaps Elizabeth can supply more information to go on.

Colin
 
:angel: Your right Colin, I couldn't find them on the 1841 Cen' either even using 'Phonetic search'

Pom :angel:
 
They may have moved out of the county. I found a John and Sarah Clifton in Staffordshire - but then they are common enough names so may not be who you are looking for.

Staffordshire 1841 Census Transcript
Surname Forename Age Relation Occupation Born in County? Address Folio Ref

Clifton John 35 - Labourer No Sams Lane, West Bromwich South West, Staffordshire HO107/0978/4/~F24
Clifton Sarah 20 - - No Sams Lane, West Bromwich South West, Staffordshire HO107/0978/4/~F24
Clifton Mary Ann 2 - - Yes Sams Lane, West Bromwich South West, Staffordshire HO107/0978/4/~F24
 
Thank you for all of your help and suggestions - other than the certificate all I know is the following about them - I was so curious about the Heath and no address etc.. thank you for all your suggestions


John Clifton married Sarah Savage 16/10/1837

His father was John Clifton a Labourer.

Her father was George Savage a Labourer.

Witnesses show as George Savage and Hannah Savage - could be sister/brother ?? aunt/uncle?? parents ? need to research further.

No address shows on wedding cert other than "the heath" Kings Heath - B'ham.
1861 b. Kings Norton
I am sure this is them later
1861 - RG9/2025 folio 71 pg 28 Victoria St, W.Brom
 
The Heath - Kings Heath

Hi everyone,

I have forwarded a message to Elizabeth who originally asked for details of the "Heath" Kings Heath,

I found something on Birmingham City Council - History of Kings Heath , there was a Heath and it is where travellers would stay and rest,

Birmingham City Council has loads of info on different areas, some things can be hard to find but usually the birmingham heritage, leisure and tourism and museum pages lead you to things.

Dianne:)
 
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