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St Edmund Campion School

jennyann

Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
Edited extract from the Birches Green House thread:

St. Edmund Campion Catholic School used to be on Pitt Farm Road but moved to Sutton Road on the corner of Holly Lane in l975. Looks like they needed more space. I think the Pitt Farm original school was demolished and houses built on the land.
 
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Hi Chris: The school I remember is Yenton Primary School between Poppy Lane and Orphanage Road on Chester Road. As you will remember Pitt Farm Road and Hayes Road are on the other side of Chester Road from there. The school you remember must have been St. Edmund Campion Catholic School which used to be on Pitt Farm Road but moved to Sutton Road on the corner of Holly Lane in l975. Looks like they needed more space. I think the Pitt Farm original school was demolished and houses built on the land.

Many large Victorian houses were pulled down along Sutton Road between
Station Road and Chester Road in the early l950's to make way for the
Lyndhurst Estate. I can remember the bonfires burning left behind furniture and probably other expensive materials from those substantial homes.

Oh dear, Jennyann's post was so long ago that I doubt anyone will read what I'm about to write in reply but here goes;

Just to clarify the Edmund Campion thing, this school was established in September 1975 following the merger of three local Catholic secondary schools; St Agnes' Girls Grammar School, St Thomas of Canterbury Boys Secondary School and St Margaret Clitherow Girls Secondary School.

St Margaret Clitherow School was built on the Pitts Farm Rd. site around 1964 and in 1975 became St Edmund Campion Lower School; the new intake went there and most of the older girls moved to the Upper School. Recently the Upper School has been extended and the Pitts Farm site has, as Jennyann rightly says, been cleared and developed for housing. St Edmund Campion School is now housed entirely at the Upper School site on the corner of Holly Lane and Sutton Rd.

Before 1964, there had been an old mansion type house on the Holly Lane/Sutton Rd. site, it was Norwood House, built by Sir Josiah Mason and it was his final residence. I am speculating a little here but I imagine it was sold soon after his death as by the end of the nineteenth century the house was a convent occupied by an order of Dominican nuns. The convent was St Agnes' and around 1900 a private school for Catholic girls had been established there. In time this became St Agnes' High School; still a private convent school; and it remained as such for a number of years, with buildings being added as and when required. In the early '60s there were plans to build a new convent building at the top of the Rosary walk (the path leading from the Orphanage Road entrance,which is still there although somewhat changed.) However, the Education Department stepped in and, needing more state grammar school places, built a brand new grammar school instead. Demolition of the old buildings, including Norwood House, and construction of the new, took place whilst the High School was still open, meanwhile the nuns themselves moved into a house on Silverbirch Rd. This house, the new convent, backed onto the school site so a private entrance gate was knocked out of the wall at the top of the Rosary walk so that the nuns could come and go. The new grammar school; also called St Agnes' was officially opened in, I believe 1964. I do have a copy of the programme for the day but I can't put my hand on it at the moment. At the time of opening, the school's pupils were a mix of new grammar school girls and old high school girls, or so I'm told. However, the grammar school was not to survive for long, as in 1975, after much debate, it was merged with the other two schools already mentioned and St Edmund Campion Comprehensive School was born.

The third school involved in the merger; St Thomas of Canterbury; had a more complicated history, which I can't remember enough of, off the top of my head, to go into now. Suffice to say in 1975 the site became the annexe to St Edmund Campion but it's cards were marked as the building was very small and as far as I remember seemed more or less of the pre-fab variety. It was situated on Sutton Rd., behind the much grander building that now houses Highclare School. I don't know exactly how long the authorities had planned to keep the annexe open, but their plans were no doubt foreshortened by at least two arson attacks in, I think 1978. I won't mention the rumours that were going around at the time regarding the culprit or their reasons for carrying out the attacks! By this time anyway, the boys had all moved up to the Upper School site. I'm not sure when the annexe was finally demolished.

I am more than happy to stand corrected if I have got any of that wrong.

Finally, if anyone knows anything more about the history of any of these schools, or of Norwood House, I would love to hear it. The same goes for any memories anyone might have of the schools or the redevelopment of the surrounding area. However I wonder if any of you will ever manage to stumble across this post seeing as it is in quite an old thread. Should have put it on the schools thread I suppose...oh well :(
 
Hi Kitty

I know nothing about the subject matter of your post but would just like to say Well Done, this is just the sort of thing this site loves, a very well written and informative piece of historical fact, any more :D


bren
 
Kitty that was great and you were right about the school in Pitts Farm road an the year it was built 1963/64. As I said I watched it being built almost every day on my way to and from work at the Moyle and Adams shop (Formally Hancox & Dodge) on Sutton Rd. The shop is still there, or it was last summer when I was over in the UK. It was a great old building at the back it had a 'Couch House/stable' that had been used to keep the horses and Delivery 'Cart' in where every thing was delivered by horse. When I was there it was used for a Store room and Garage for 'Dry Goods ' and the Van
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Also don't worry about resurrecting 'Old Threads' because a 'New Post' on any thread pushes it back up to the top of the 'Posts List' and as you can now see others will once again add more memories to it.

Pom :angel:
 
Thanks to Bren and Pom for your kind comments :puppyeyes:

Most of the research for this was done at the archives at St Chads a few years ago and some of it was personal memory from the time of the merger.

Bren, there may be more, once I get started on something I think I know a bit about, it's hard to make me shut up. I think I might post a thread about these schools onto the school thread and refer whoever might be interested, to this thread - if that makes any sense. That way, anything I might want to add, I could add in the schools section and twitter on to my heart's content without any fear of being off-subject. As for other subjects, well as I've said, if I think I know a bit... A little knowledge is a dangerous thing!

Pom, where did you live in Erdington?

All the best,

Kitty
 
Just found this very accurate article on Norwood House and St. Agnes school...brilliant!!!! I was a pupil at the school in the 60's and that is exactly what happened. It was a crying shame that the beautiful house that was Norwood house, the home of Josiah Mason. was pulled down. I remember the polished staircase and the enormous hall way.Since then I have collected all the available books, prints etc. of and about Josiah Mason...and Brian Jones of the Pen Room has writen an excellent book about Josiah Mason with a photo of NorwoodHouse.A copy of this can bre seen/bought at the Museum....Thank you Kitty for the very informative article. (I would love to be able to see a copy of the opening programme if you have found it!!)
 
Thank you for the website...it is indeed very informative.
Suze, the article I'm refering to was written by Kitty,you can find it on this thread, page 1, dated Sept.9th 2008. It's about St. Agnes School...is that what you are referring to?? This wasn't the Orphanage school in caes anybody thinks it was...it was a private school run by Dominican nuns. Norwood House stood where Edmund Campion School is now. on the top of Holly Lane/Sutton New Road.The drive down to the school ius the original One...and nORWOOD hOUSE STOOD WHERE THE rECEPTION BUILDING IS NOW.( OPS...SORRY FOR TYPING..too much of a hurry...so lovely that this thread is up and running again !)
 
Oh dear, Jennyann's post was so long ago that I doubt anyone will read what I'm about to write in reply but here goes;

Just to clarify the Edmund Campion thing, this school was established in September 1975 following the merger of three local Catholic secondary schools; St Agnes' Girls Grammar School, St Thomas of Canterbury Boys Secondary School and St Margaret Clitherow Girls Secondary School.

St Margaret Clitherow School was built on the Pitts Farm Rd. site around 1964 and in 1975 became St Edmund Campion Lower School; the new intake went there and most of the older girls moved to the Upper School. Recently the Upper School has been extended and the Pitts Farm site has, as Jennyann rightly says, been cleared and developed for housing. St Edmund Campion School is now housed entirely at the Upper School site on the corner of Holly Lane and Sutton Rd.

Before 1964, there had been an old mansion type house on the Holly Lane/Sutton Rd. site, it was Norwood House, built by Sir Josiah Mason and it was his final residence. I am speculating a little here but I imagine it was sold soon after his death as by the end of the nineteenth century the house was a convent occupied by an order of Dominican nuns. The convent was St Agnes' and around 1900 a private school for Catholic girls had been established there. In time this became St Agnes' High School; still a private convent school; and it remained as such for a number of years, with buildings being added as and when required. In the early '60s there were plans to build a new convent building at the top of the Rosary walk (the path leading from the Orphanage Road entrance,which is still there although somewhat changed.) However, the Education Department stepped in and, needing more state grammar school places, built a brand new grammar school instead. Demolition of the old buildings, including Norwood House, and construction of the new, took place whilst the High School was still open, meanwhile the nuns themselves moved into a house on Silverbirch Rd. This house, the new convent, backed onto the school site so a private entrance gate was knocked out of the wall at the top of the Rosary walk so that the nuns could come and go. The new grammar school; also called St Agnes' was officially opened in, I believe 1964. I do have a copy of the programme for the day but I can't put my hand on it at the moment. At the time of opening, the school's pupils were a mix of new grammar school girls and old high school girls, or so I'm told. However, the grammar school was not to survive for long, as in 1975, after much debate, it was merged with the other two schools already mentioned and St Edmund Campion Comprehensive School was born.

The third school involved in the merger; St Thomas of Canterbury; had a more complicated history, which I can't remember enough of, off the top of my head, to go into now. Suffice to say in 1975 the site became the annexe to St Edmund Campion but it's cards were marked as the building was very small and as far as I remember seemed more or less of the pre-fab variety. It was situated on Sutton Rd., behind the much grander building that now houses Highclare School. I don't know exactly how long the authorities had planned to keep the annexe open, but their plans were no doubt foreshortened by at least two arson attacks in, I think 1978. I won't mention the rumours that were going around at the time regarding the culprit or their reasons for carrying out the attacks! By this time anyway, the boys had all moved up to the Upper School site. I'm not sure when the annexe was finally demolished.

I am more than happy to stand corrected if I have got any of that wrong.

Finally, if anyone knows anything more about the history of any of these schools, or of Norwood House, I would love to hear it. The same goes for any memories anyone might have of the schools or the redevelopment of the surrounding area. However I wonder if any of you will ever manage to stumble across this post seeing as it is in quite an old thread. Should have put it on the schools thread I suppose...oh well :(
Kitty, My name is Tim Oxley. I am a teacher at St Edmund Campion and am presently researching the history of St Agnes to the present day. I would love to support you in your quest to find out more about the school. It is by luck and chance I have come across this post
 
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