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Trying to locate an Elizabeth who is living on Beals Court, Upper Hospital Street in Brum in 1841 or 1851. She is present at the death in 1846 of an Elizabeth Chiswell. Very hard to read her last name on GRO however - begins with P and could be Poutun or Pontan or Pournton or something like that. No idea of her age. Thank you!
 
So - Ancestry doesn't provide search by street name. Is there another name I can search for living on Upper Hospital Street in 1841 to see if I can manually look for Parton? Thank you!
 
That was from findmypast. She is there with a Henry, Reuben & Maria. All there birthplaces are listed as outside county.

Not much to go on and this is complete speculation but she may have been Henry's second wife.

There are a Reuben and an Ann Maria Panton of the right ages baptised in Worcester, children of Henry and Mary. And then a marriage for a Henry Panton to an Elizabeth Freeman in Worcestershire 1833.

I can see Reuben on the 1851 census in Bham and possibly Elizabeth and Ann Maria in 1861. Not too sure of the latter.
 
And in reference to your other thread and the info Mike has posted - there were just 4 houses between Elizabeth and a William Winkles.
 
I apologize for the 2 threads - they seemed separate questions! Anyway - 4 houses between Winkles and Parton/Panton - is that in 1841 or 1851 census? Again - on Ancestry searching manually thru neighbors of William Wrinkles in 1841 and 1851 - I can't see anyone who looks like a Panton or Parton?
 
Upper Hospital Street is under
Warrwickshire, St George and district 22
Upper Hospital Street starts on page 4

The first easily legible name seems to be Thomas Thornton.
The problem with the 1841 census is that no house numbers are used.
 
Yes It is the Elizabeth Chiswell d 1846 in Key Hill Cemetery that I am trying to figure out. The rest of the Chiswell's in Key Hill are her grandson Henry Chiswell and family. His grandmother was Elizabeth Vale who married George Chiswell and so I thought Elizabeth Chiswell d 1846 might be her. But - the GRO death says she is the widow of John (not George) Chiswell, soldier. So - that would mean it is not her, unless they got name of her husband wrong on death. Her FATHER was probably John Vale, so it's possible husbands name is wrong. It just seems odd that the only other Chiswell family in Key Hill is unrelated to her. But - possible of course. Thanks!
 
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Oh that's interesting. Is there any info about Henry and Sarah Chiswell in Key Hill, in terms of plots, or other Chiswell's which are their kids and grandkids?
 
George Chiswell's death was mentioned in the Staffordshire Advertiser, he was described as a serjeant and quarter master of the King's Own Militia.
 
Ah - That is so interesting that George was a soldier! After much work, I think a son of theirs - Mark Chiswell- who was also a soldier in the Kings Own (!) and lived in Berkshire had a son Henry Chiswell who is my 3rd great grandfather. Is the announcement of George's death available online anywhere?

I do think the Elizabeth who died 1846 is George's wife and that "John" is wrong on her death. I did know George and family were in Staffordshire as I spent gee - maybe years on and off looking for Henry Chiswell's family! Thanks so much to all. Really very helpful.
 
Ah - That is so interesting that George was a soldier! After much work, I think a son of theirs - Mark Chiswell b 1788 who was also a soldier in Staffordshire Kings Own (!) and lived in Berkshire had a son Henry Chiswell who is my 3rd great grandfather. Is the announcement of George's death available online anywhere?

I do think the Elizabeth who died 1846 is George's wife and that "John" is wrong on her death. I did know George and family were in Staffordshire as I spent gee - maybe years on and off looking for Henry Chiswell's f! Thanks so much to all. Really very helpful.
pjmburns said:
Will post the newspaper report when I have my laptop on.
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Thank you!
 
Ah - That is so interesting that George was a soldier! After much work, I think a son of theirs - Mark Chiswell b 1788 who was also a soldier in Staffordshire Kings Own (!) and lived in Berkshire had a son Henry Chiswell who is my 3rd great grandfather. Is the announcement of George's death available online anywhere?

I do think the Elizabeth who died 1846 is George's wife and that "John" is wrong on her death. I did know George and family were in Staffordshire as I spent gee - maybe years on and off looking for Henry Chiswell's f! Thanks so much to all. Really very helpful.
pjmburns said:
Will post the newspaper report when I have my laptop on.
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Mark Chiswell was b 1788, father = George. Mother = Elizabeth. I think he died 1844 in Berkshire. Have GRO. Was a member of Staffordshire Kings Own. Was shoemaker in 1841 after discharge and on GRO death. Brother George Chiswell was a shoemaker as well. Mark's wife Sarah GRO death says widow of a soldier.
 
I assume you have seen this marriage record at St Edburgha's church Yardley. The date is 1797
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Interestingly there were banns called in 1787 at St Bartholomew's Edgbaston but I assume that marriage did not take place as the entry is crossed out.
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And just an update on the original question of the hard to read informant on Elizabeth Chiswell death - which looked like Elizabeth Pouton or Parton or Pointon but was no family name I knew related to my Eliz Chiswell. Today - I found that her mothers sister Marsha Ashford (b 1737) first married Thomas Webster and then Stephen Pouiton in 1772 in Brum. It looks like the surname might actually be Poynton or Pointon but spelled many ways. Haven't connected Stephen/Martha to 1846 informant Elizabeth but this at least suggest this is the death of my Eliz Chiswell. Just an update!!!
 
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