Lodge William & Anne

[familysleuth]

I've got a very basic question about finding a parish in Birmingham and searching for parish records. I am looking for baptisms for Sarah Ellen Lodge born about 1820 to William and Anne Lodge (he was a stone-mason) and Jane Lodge, another daughter born about 1823. I am a bit confused by the online parish clerk database, (because I don't know the parishes) and I think that the records are currently unavailable, until September, is that correct? William Lodge had a stone and marble mason business in Islington Road/Broad St and his wife carried it on after his death in 1824. William and Anne were both married before, and at least a couple of their children were christened in Methodist/ Wesleyan churches, others not (just to make things interesting). Can something give me some advice? I have searched non-conformist records available, familysearch, freeReg etc and not found anything, but I could have missed it. Any advice please?

 

[MWS]

There are lots of records still to be transcribed and I'd just assume that the one you are looking for is one of them. As you say the actual records are unavailable until September when the new library opens. The catalogue of what they hold is still available, I'm not sure if they have non comformist records.

From the 1841 census it looks like Islington might be in the parish of St Thomas (Bath Row ?), so if she was baptised c of e, it could be that one. Except I've just read it wasn't built until 1826 so it won't be that one.

 

[rosie]

familysleuth, you might find some information on BMSGH.org about Birmingham Parishes. I was going to suggest St. Thomas also, as my relatives were there, but not that "early". If it was St. Martin's or St. Philip's then it would be on Familysearch.
I've just noticed you are in Australia so it would be impossible for you to go to our Central Library, we're all waiting for it to re-open.
Pickard's Pink Pages are very interesting, are you able to Google for a link, as mine didn't work last time I posted it?
rosie.

 

[familysleuth]

Thankyou to both replies - I have just looked on the BMSGH site, which is really comprehensive - however I get the impression that the Central Library holds the records to everything......*smile* so its probably just a waiting game, unless some FHS have transcriptions on CD that I could check, and for that I need an index...... to point me in the right direction first.
The names don't appear on FamilySearch that I have found. Sarah Ellen was later married to the Rev Rawlings at St Thomas's, brother Robert was married in Carr's Lane meeting house 1840 to Martha Lee, and I am not sure where Jane was married - have yet to get the registration. I was able to get into the Pink Pages but again - this date is early and I feel I am searching for a needle in a haystack! Yes, I am in Australia and I am hoping to either employ a researcher or get a lookup eventually. I suspect there will be quite a queue outside the Central library when it re-opens!

This Lodge family was in business in Birmingham for some time, and I am hoping that there is another member who may be interested in them too. Thanks for your help so far!

 

[clarkie]

If Sarah Ellen Lodge who married Charles Rawlings 7 Oct 1841 Saint Thomas, Birmingham, did the marriage certificate give any further information?
Clarkie

 

[familysleuth]

Thank you Clarkie, yes, that is the lady. I don't have her marriage certificate yet, just the index reference, and a newspaper reference. It would make sense to get it - its just a little down on my list at present, my next order is her mother, Anne Lodge's death certificate (I am conserving money a bit).

 

[carolina]

What type of business were they in?

 

[familysleuth]

Anne and William ran the 'Islington Marble Works'. It was in Islington/Broard St from at least the 1820's onwards. They made fancy marble items, statues, mantlepieces etc. The address varies from 131 to 188 (either they moved premises or the numbering changed). There are a number of advertisements that Anne put in after William died in 1824, and I believe she took it over with guild permission, because she styles herself a 'stone mason' in the 1841 census. She seems to have run it successfully, and handed it over to William jnr (her husbands son by his first marriage) in 1845 but by 1848 he was bankrupt, and I don't know what happened to the business - have not found details of its sale yet. Apparently this end of Islington is near the docks, is that correct? Anne and Williams first child, Robert Lodge, ran a successful Grocery business in Islington also, and there are a few other family connection in trade in the area as well. Does anyone have a photograph of the area at all?

 

[Ken_R]

A map of the Ecclesiastical Parishes for 1851 can be found here.

https://maps.familysearch.org/

Just zoom in to the appropriate area and then click on the "EJ1851" tab.

yes, that is the lady. I don't have her marriage certificate yet, just the index reference, and a newspaper reference. It would make sense to get it - (I am conserving money a bit).

Then why not conserve money 'a lot':courage: and get it through the LDS Photoduplication Service.

It takes a few weeks for the original record to come back by email but it is FOC.:triumphant:

Film Notes

Baptisms, 1829-1853.	Family History Library BRITISH Film	817173
Baptisms, 1853-1867.	Family History Library BRITISH Film	817174
Baptisms, 1867-1880. Private baptisms, 1848-1878.	Family History Library BRITISH Film	817175
Marriages, 1835-1853.	Family History Library BRITISH Film	817176
Marriages, 1853-1868.	Family History Library BRITISH Film	817177
Marriages, 1868-1875.	Family History Library BRITISH Film	817178
Burials, 1830-1908.	Family History Library BRITISH Film	817179

It looks like the entry for Charles Rawlings & Sarah Ellen Lodge will be on Film No 817176.

Regarding your question about 'docks', Islington Row is not far from major canal routes and it would be logical for stone to come in via that route.