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Lion pub Lawley St Duddeston & Stork Hotel, Newtown Row, Aston

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Colin Jones

Brummie babby
The above pubs where run by my great grandparents George and Ruth Baker between 1892 and 1920. I am trying to find out more information on them and I am hoping that someone can give me any details on the breweries that owned these pubs so I can contact them to see if they have any records of George and Ruth or any photographs of these long since demolished pubs.
 
Hi Colin

I can't tell you much about these two pubs, the Lion was at121 Lawley Street which was the junction of Curzon Street. I lived in the area in the early 1950's and I can never even remember seeing a building on the site. It's possible being near to two major rail goods yards that it was bombed out during the war, sorry I couldn't find a photo of this Pub.

The Stork was on the junction of the High Street and Asylum Road, it disappeared under the new shopping precinct that was built there in the early 60's. I never used either of these pubs but I'm sure we have posters on here who used the Stork at sometime (photo attached).

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Phil said:
Hi Colin

I can't tell you much about these two pubs, the Lion was at121 Lawley Street which was the junction of Curzon Street. I lived in the area in the early 1950's and I can never even remember seeing a building on the site. It's possible being near to two major rail goods yards that it was bombed out during the war, sorry I couldn't find a photo of this Pub.

The Stork was on the junction of the High Street and Asylum Road, it disappeared under the new shopping precinct that was built there in the early 60's. I never used either of these pubs but I'm sure we have posters on here who used the Stork at sometime (photo attached).

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Hi Phil Thanks very much for the information and photo of the Stork. I can see from it that Ansells was the brewery that owned the pub so I will try to contact them to find out if they have any historic records on the landlords that ran both the Stork and the Lion.
 
Colin

The problem you might have is back in the dates you are looking for the pubs were more than likely owned by another brewery that Ansells might have taken over. Now that Ansells themselves are now defunct you might run into problems, but I'm sure the records must be in store somewhere.
 
colin like phil i dont have a photo of the lion pub the only one i do have in lawley st is the viaduct

lyn
 
Phil said:
Colin

The problem you might have is back in the dates you are looking for the pubs were more than likely owned by another brewery that Ansells might have taken over. Now that Ansells themselves are now defunct you might run into problems, but I'm sure the records must be in store somewhere.
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Thanks again for the additional information. I believe that Ansells were taken over by Allied Breweries so I shall direct my enquiries in their direction.
 
Phil said:
Hi Colin

I can't tell you much about these two pubs, the Lion was at121 Lawley Street which was the junction of Curzon Street. I lived in the area in the early 1950's and I can never even remember seeing a building on the site. It's possible being near to two major rail goods yards that it was bombed out during the war, sorry I couldn't find a photo of this Pub.

The Stork was on the junction of the High Street and Asylum Road, it disappeared under the new shopping precinct that was built there in the early 60's. I never used either of these pubs but I'm sure we have posters on here who used the Stork at sometime (photo attached).

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Nice picture! the Co-op was next door and the post office was on the other corner across from Richards the pork butcher.
Dave A
 
Colin. Allied themselves then disappeared in the mess that the brewery industry became. According to the National Archives, the birmingham Archives hold their minute, books, ledgers and share records (Ref : MS 161 NRA 29558 Ansells Ltd). Not sure if this is up to date, as , at one time the Birmingham Archives held brewery records for many breweries, but dispersed many to other places s not relevant to the area when they were planning their present building
 
mikejee said:
Colin. Allied themselves then disappeared in the mess that the brewery industry became. According to the National Archives, the birmingham Archives hold their minute, books, ledgers and share records (Ref : MS 161 NRA 29558 Ansells Ltd). Not sure if this is up to date, as , at one time the Birmingham Archives held brewery records for many breweries, but dispersed many to other places s not relevant to the area when they were planning their present building
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Thanks for information. I will follow it up with Birmingham Archives although I may have to travel down to Birmigham to access their recoeds.
 
hi colin be careful not to have a wasted journey to the library..you can no longer just walk into the archives section and look at certain records on the spot...you first have to go in and order up what you want to view then you have to make an appointment to go again to view.my advise is to check on their opening days and times ..you could also phone them up to see if they do have the records you want to look at and if you do not hold a CARN card make sure you go up with ID such as driving license or passport so that you can be issued with one...you will need this to view anything in the archives dept..

lyn
 
Astoness said:
hi colin be careful not to have a wasted journey to the library..you can no longer just walk into the archives section and look at certain records on the spot...you first have to go in and order up what you want to view then you have to make an appointment to go again to view.my advise is to check on their opening days and times ..you could also phone them up to see if they do have the records you want to look at and if you do not hold a CARN card make sure you go up with ID such as driving license or passport so that you can be issued with one...you will need this to view anything in the archives dept..

lyn
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Hi Lyn Thanks for the advice and warning about the difficulties of procuring records from the archives of the library. It looks as if the information about Ansells Brewery and subsequently my great grandparents is going to be a hard slog, However, I'm not undeterred and will follow the guidelines you have suggested.
 
happy to help colin...please keep us informed...i would hate you to have a wasted journey especially as you do not live in brum...some time ago a lady came over for the weekend from ireland hoping to visit the archive section only to find that they only open 1 saturday per month..sadly the weekend she was here they were closed...it never used to be like this but fore warned as they say...good luck

lyn
 
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