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Sian

master brummie
Hello helpers

I wonder if anyone knows which church would be in or near Steward Street, Ladywood in the 1920-1940
Kind regards
Sian
 
Hi Maurice

Thank you very much indeed you are most helpful ~ it is a lovely photo of an old church, shame so many have been demolished.
The other church I have an interest in is St John's in Ladywood ~ if I look on this brilliant forum I expect I will soon find a photograph.
Best wishes to you
Sian
 
Thank you Maurice I shall enjoy reading through it. This is such a great forum, many thanks once again.
Best wishes
Sian
 
Hi Sospiri
many thanks for you putting up on the thread of st marks church and quite correctly maurice is right
it was on the corner of little st marks street and i lived about three hundred yards from it on king edwards rd
it was later demolished in the late fiftied come and it later became a ware house called DECCO it was a fancy goods and alsorts of products
and i worked there for a short while after about three years it closed down there used to be a horse watering troth across the rd
from the church which was postion;ed on the other side of king edwards rd as st marks street was split into two halfs
and seperated by king edwards rd little st marks a nd big st marks we alway spoke of if any body wanted to asked for directions and point it out i lived in 243 king edwards rd ; the church sian ;is requesting was in fact in steward street directly behind the school in steward street its self
and afew doors from that there was a black smith as kids we used to watch the black smith from his door way it ws a stable door type he had
and it was always open then there was a little terrace of houses and one name springs to my mind was a family called grithis
billy later joined the army also sospiri the mosedale family i know very well we played together in a big yard up cope street
which was called the nik naks a warrenofopen end houses that lead you into cope st spring field st and stour street
i had been intouch with them last year and my wife is an old school friend of his wifes whom go back years
that church stood empty for many a years before demolishing it in the sixtys along with the black smiths
 
Hi Astonian,

It's great to have your personal recollections of that very area, especially precious now that much has been demolished. My later father, Tom Sheppard, lived most of his first 50 years in Ladywood - first at 120 Great Tindal Street and then at 12 Alston Street. Sadly all gone now along with his brother's business at 56 Sherborne Street. I drove around there some years ago in the middle of the great demolition programme and could barely recognise any of it!

Maurice :cool:
 
HI MAUREECE
Many thanks for your reply and i think it was intresting to knowyour brother was living in lady wood
the name rings a bell with me on a couple of things firstly a boy by that name and secondly was any brother became a school teacher
there was a shepard at ickneild st school and there was a lad and a teacher whom was a teacher there at steward st school
i don.t surpose there was any connections thanks again maureece for your feed back again and keep your good work coming ; i also watch and read your threads with great intrest alan ; astonian
 
Hi Alan,

It was my father's brother, not my brother. He ran a haulage business at 56 Sherbourne Street, but a bit too early for you I think. During the war a bomb fell on the houses behind his place and a couple of people were killed. After the war he moved his family and the business out to Linchmere Road (off the top end of Oxhill Road). I've looked in vain for a picture of the old Sherborne Street premises and arrived there one very rainy day only for one of the demolition contractors to tell me they'd knocked it down three months before. :(

There were a couple of other SHEPPARD/SHEPHERD families still living in Ladywood after the war who might be related. One lot were in Ruston Street. There's also a picture of a Mr & Mrs SHEPHERD (sadly no forenames or initials) at the Silver Jubilee 1937 in Mac Joseph's book "Good Morning Ladywood" - in the top hat and on the far right of the picture. They might be the ones out of Ruston Street.

I don't know of a teacher amongst the family. Dad worked for Perry Pens in Lancaster Street and one of his cousins was a cab driver. And, of course, photographs are as rare as hen's teeth! I really must give these SHEPPARD/SHEPHERDs a bit more attention and see if can see if they are related. :rolleyes:

Kind regards, Maurice :cool:
 
Hi Maurice and Astonian, my grandmother Emma Biddulph lived 5/22 Alston Street as a domestic servant to a Harold and Ellen Fisher on the 1891 census; and then when married 1899 to Isaac Timmins lived back of 16 Lower King Edwards Road and then on 1901 census lived 2/12 Gt Tindall Street. Best wishes Carol.
 
Hi Carol,

Thanks for the information - it's good to see some more interest in Ladywood. Unfortunately, Alston Street got completely massacred in the demolition era when Ladywood Middleway was created. There's a tiny bit of it existing in name only, it seems, and I'm sure someone will correct me it I'm wrong.

Coincidental that you should have an Isaac as my research shows the SHEPHERD in Ruston Street to be Isaac George with his wife Elizabeth. I don't have a TIMMINS and my only FISHER hails much later from WALSALL.

Maurice :cool:
 
Re: My Post #9:

The SHEPHERD in Mac Joseph's 1937 photograph was Isaac George SHEPHERD and his wife Elizabeth (nee FAIRCLOUGH). He was born in 1868 in Barker Street, Ladywood, the son of a Shropshire carter. The family later moved to 11 Meriden Street where they opened a fish & chip shop in the 1890s.

Isaac later dropped his first name in all but official documents, preferring to be known as George. He married in 1889 and in 1911 he was working in the rubber trade. He and his family lived at 121 Ruston Street from 1920 until his death in 1944.

At least I know he is not related to me, but is he one of yours? :rolleyes:

Maurice :cool:
 
Maurice, here are some photos which may have been on the Forum before, unfortunately only one of the Gt Tindal Street Number (1) is shown so I dont know the numbers of any of the others.
Carol
 
Hello Carol
Your photographs take me for a walk down memory lane, do you know if there are any photographs of the Maisonettes in Great Tindal Street where I lived in the 1960's please?
Best wishes
Sian
 
Ok Carol it was just a thought, I will have a look on the old ladywood site though thanks for that.
Best wishes
Sian
 
Hi Carol
Internet Exployer cant display the web page at the moment but I will keep trying thanks a lot Carol, cant think of a better way to spend a wet Sunday eve lol.
Best wishes
Sian
 
Thanks for loading the pics, Carol. I had only seen a couple of them before.

The last site appears to be a dead link now. The great problem with most of these photos, for someone like myself who never actually lived there, is fathoming out the numbers!

Maurice :cool:
 
HI CAROLINA AND SIAN
I Myself would like to say a big thank you for all those old pics of the streets you put up
i was around in those days living down in lower king edwards rd and i also can remember doing the tour of all those emty
deilect houses after the war scouriong top to bottom along with a couple of old friends
searcging for old war bits and bobslike the gas masks and helmets and any memorbilitys
and the days they started to knock downthe area of the old houses going across from alton street to the city centre
in fact it was the whole area of redeloment of lady wood one of the lads with me along with a couple of friends was two brothers
our next door neibour when we lived inking edwards rd was the chimney sweep man for the area
was a family called hollond he also worked at lucas,s and there was another chimney sweep fellow whom
lived in clarke street ladywood just up the road from alston street and the under takers on the corner of alston street ladywood
whom later moved to harborne and still are there in harborne there is a chap whom runs it now at the under takers his name is david whom grew up in and around st marks street and as pics in the parour of the old houses sadly david lost his own wife not so long back
i used to speak to him alot but i have not seen him for a whiledavid was like me he knew alot of the ladywoodites familes
when david his not working at the funeral parlar he puts his old clothes on and pops down back to the old end to see some of the old guys but sadly there is only afew of us left as they have died as you know its a wicked area now but saying thatbirmingham its self isnot good
but saying that society every where now as changed even eversham and worcestershire
maurece i think one of the sheppards was one of theladywood gang along with the paddy hardimans called the alley cats they all worn leather jackets and run around on motor bikes
on the subjects of building around alton stretand the masonettes i also recall the masonette estates being built right across the area and the
old ladywood road ; cor ;those was the days i can recall ted rowe and i think i have crosed old macca in his youger day whom i bekeive he was from up there around the 1950 -58 ; years when he was younger one of my old friends from that era was a ray grocott whom lived with his mother
and father many man years ago we done alot of adventure things together and worked to gether lived in huntly rd
i do not know whether he his still alive or passed over but his father was in charge of the old wmt and was a city magistrate and top dog chairman at the ladywood social club and he was an OBE which was displayed on the plaque in the entrance to the club he was the chairman for many many years
so guys i have a great memory of ladywood and some of the guys whom also went to steward street and ickneild street
thee was guy whom i came across and whom i later in life became inlaw with was a guy whom is father was a seargent major in the army years ago came to ickneild street when he was a young lad and after school he would clean gas cookers for a little shop on he old six ways
hockley brook for pennies but later in life he became well known and became a prosecuter for the sutton and walsall area of brum and now lives
in a big whopping house in the corner of sutton park and his brother works in the house of commons as a body gaurd security car drivier
for all those top vips
thanks again guys for all those great pics but i must admit i can actualy still vividly see them still standing even today ;even the whole area
to be quite honest ; and i just want to say do log on to the old ladywood sight because its as great pics and great family history
and you can bet your last penny there will be some oneyou reconise or know personally
have a great day guys astonian
 
Hi Alan,

Having now eliminated Isaac George and his wife as not being part of my family, I really must get down to extending what I know of those in Ladywood that definitely were. They were all descendants of my great grandfather, Charles SHEPPARD (Circa 1816 - 1872), who lived most of his life in and around Hanley Castle and the villages of south Worcestershire. Charles himself never left Worcestershire as an adult, but he had ten children. His eldest was William, my grandfather, and most of those that survived childhood ended up in the Ladywood/Edgbaston area.

I've no idea how many of their descendants are still kicking around in the Birmingham area. I know one lot moved to Stroud and another one opted to return to the rural life and became a gamekeeper, first in Sussex and then in Dorset.

Regards,

Maurice :cool:
 
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