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John Taylor - 1792 or before

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sheri

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If possible could someone please look up a marriage between John Taylor b. ? 1766 B'ham to a Sarah b. ?1770. Their first child was Susanna b. 1792. It is possible the marriage was at St. Phillips as all the children were baptised there - if not St. Martins. I know it's difficult with such a common name - thank you so much.
Sheri
 
Can you see if you can find anything for a Thomas Taylor and Sarah Stringer marriage around that time, please? I would think they were living around the Yardley area. thanks
 
Carolina - Nothing in Pilot (but please check yourself) but it doesn't have everything. Of what it does hold it ends to be mainly CoE not non-conformist or Catholic usually.
 
That's interesting Shera.

I think the explanation is that https://www.familysearch.org/eng/se...on=2&regionfriendly=British+Isles&frompage=99 says "Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church" rather than "Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record" and LDS do not have or cannot find such an entry to allow it onto Pilot (which is an attempt to clean up IGI as far as I understand it). Therefore, I would treat that record with even more caution than normal and double-check with the actual record to make sure (good advice anyway but essential in this case)
 
Thanks to you both. Shera what is igi? Also, is there anything that you can find for Annie Danks born 1880 Walsall, but completely missing from 1891 census. In 1881 living with parents James and Ann, then 1901 living with her grandparents Elijah and Lucy Aston. She married Arthur Taylor in 1903 Netherton. I have searched so much and cant find her anywhere. Thanks. Incidentally they married 25 December 1903 and my parents married 18 December 1937 - December must be a good month for the Taylors.
 
hi carolina, if you click on aidans link in his last post it will show you igi. its a family search site and as aidan said some of the records are extracted from the originals but some are submitted by members of the latter day saints church and are not reliable. often they are correct but you can never be sure.

as for the annie danks, ive looked extensively for her in 1891 when i read your thread a day or two ago and couldnt find her. i have some ancestors myself whom i cannot find on censuses so its not uncommon as they could be lost or illegible.
 
FreeBMD https://www.freebmd.org.uk shows the following and it would give you a firm base if you sent for the certificates (if you haven't already):

Marriages Dec 1903
Danks Annie Dudley 6c 91
Taylor Arthur Dudley 6c 91

Births Sep 1880
DANKS Annie Walsall 6b 673
 
Hi Aidan and Shera, Thank you so much for the information - I am very grateful - have been researching this family for many years an d was about to give up. On the 1841 census it gives John junior's age as being about 44 thus b. 1796'sh. I came across something yesterday which gave his age as 40 so I looked again on family search for his parents but couldn't find their marrage, so one of these ladies must be his mother - exciting. So difficult with common names. Thank you again.
Sheri
 
Sheri, I am with you with the popular name (not common, please) of the name of Taylor - who knows we might have a connection. Aiden I do have the marriage cert for Annie/Arthur its just getting back info for Annie where I was getting stuck from and trying to find out why she was living with grandparents whose name was Aston as I hadnt come across that name before. Witnesses on the cert was Ada (her sister) and showing her father James as deceased. Good luck Sheri.
 
Carolina - my suggestion is to work back from the known to the unknown. Get as many Census as you can (you will be fortunate to get them all), you will have her father's name from the Marriage & possibly whether he was alive or dead at the time. The Birth certificate will give you the Mother's maiden name and from both you should get their marriage. If her parents are missing or shown as deceased then you could look for their Death certificate which may give useful info. Then the parents birth and so on....
 
Thank you Carolina, popular is a better word. My problem has been so many John's in all my families. I'm doing the back work too - I'm OK with the census's but the b aptisms and marriages!!!! I don't thin k we have a connection - haven't come across your n ames but you never know - I haven't got John b 1796 sibling's yet. Good luck to you too,
Sheri
 
Sheri if your John Taylor was involved with the banking Lloyds there is mention of him in the book The Lloyds of Birmingham available on Internet Archive.
 
Hi Bordsley exile and Carolina , thank you for you messages. Yes I know about John Taylor and Lloyds an d I did look into it but didn't find any connection (too rich for my family who lived for generations in Watery Lane Small Heath), my John Taylor was shoe/b oot maker in 1841. So sadly not!!!
Sheri
 
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