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Astonian

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HI Every -body
I Was Wondering If Possible If Any body Got Access To
The Records Of Either St Martins Or St Lennards Honeybourne For The Year
Of 1869 WhereI Beleive A Mary Ann Jelf Was Married But I DoNot No The Name Of The Other Person , Meaning The Man,s Name But Which Church I Do Not Know Its One Or The Other , For Certain , I Really Want To KnowThe Name Of The Guy WhomShe Married , I Would Like ToSay Thank You To You ALL And Really Appreciate Your Time GivenWhen And If You Have Got The ACCESS ,To Do So , Best Wishes To One And All ASTONIAN ,;;
 
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hi astonian

i only have access to st. martins records and i cannot find a marriage of mary ann jelf for that year. sorry wish i could help :(
 
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i think you meant 1867 as according to ancestry mary ann jelf married oct-dec 1867 in aston to either joseph fox or william taylor 6d 381
 
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Hi astorian

There is a marriage on bmd site for

Mary Ann Jelf in June :)1884 in Kings Norton do not know if this is what you are after.

Possible husbands for her are

William Bishop
Richard Henry Wheildon

Hope this is of help.
 
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HI GUYS ,
Many Many Thanks To You ALL FOR YOUR MOST Vauluable Time Given ,
Surely There Cannot Be More Than One Mary Ann Jelf ,
Best Wishes ASTONIAN ,;;
 
Re: Mary ann jelf

HI GUYS
Sorry For Being A Pane About This But I Have Just Leart Her Maiden Name
Was Mary Ann Hughes So You Kind People Does It Help On Any Elimiation Of The
Person From Kings Norton ,
Many Thanks ASTONIAN ,;;;
 
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The marriage register page 381 for Aston in the 4th quarter of 1867 has two marriages listed:
The women are Mary Ann Hughes and Mary Ann Jelf, and the men Joseph Fox and William Taylor, but no clue as to which Mary Ann married which man.
 
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Hi Astonian

There is some marriages for Mary Ann Hughes on free bmd

June 1869 in Birmingham

possible spouses Robert Davis or William Pardy Young

Sep 1869

Married as Mary Hughes so not sure about this one

Possible spouses

Henry Edgehill
Francis Sheen

March 1870

possible spouses

John Bull, or Henry William Saxty

hope this is of help

Kind regards Paula
 
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HI LLOYED AND PAULA ,
I JUST DON,T Know What To Say To You Both, I Can Only Say Yet Again Many Thanks
For Your Given Precious Time On This Subject And I Actualy Find It Completely Mind Bogerling Regarding This Woman , I Have Actualy Got The Last Will And Testermont Of
This Lady And It States [ MARY Ann Jelf , Nee Hughes ] But I Just Cannot Get A Marrige Certif; I Keep Drawing A Blank , It Never Appears Any WHERE For Some Reason , I Also Have A GEORGE William Jelfs Will Which States All Is Estate And Business Goes To His Beloved Wife Mary Ann Hughes And All His Children And The Grand Children When Reach The Age Of 21 Years Old But I Am Stuck Now ,
So Its Back To Sqaure One Thanks Again Guys ,BEST Wishes Astonian ,
 
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Hi Astonian

Is it possible that she married twice, i know my great great grandmother did and it wasn't till i got the marriage cert i found out her name was Worrall and she had been using her late husbands name of Dixon.

Just another possibilty to confuse you i know had frustrating it can get.
Good luck with your research, i may be in town next week to go to the libray i will have a look for you to see if i can find anything if know one on the boards can help.

Have you got her on any of the census and did she have any children.
I will check back on your thread and try and find anything in the libary for you i am still a novice at this myself but i will do what i can.
Kind regards Paula:)
 
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HI PAULA
Many Thanks for your time yet again Yes Mary Ann Was REGISTERD ON THE 1925
CENUS WITH CHILDREN BUT NO HUSBAND IT WAS AT 39 CHARLES HENRY STREET MARY ANN JELF HAD A DAUGHTER LATER AT ERDINTON AT A COFFEE SHOP
MARY ANN JELF DIED 16THSEPT 1946,IF YOU WANT ANY MORE INFO; I WILL EM YOU IF THATS OKAY ,MANY THANKS ASTONIAN ,;;
 
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Jayne thats a wonderful photo and a great conclusion to the thread. Thank you for sharing it with us.
 
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hi wendy;
its a small world is,nt it because mary ann jelf is also my great grand mother and my mother is related to jays mother
both jelfs daughters each lady in question is the daughters to two brothers of the jelfs whom is there mother
this infamous lady as taughted me for many years and now i have actualy got a pic of her and jayne and myelf are going to be meeting up in birmingham next week and she will give me all the missing jig saw of the jelfs i meed she as given me a picture of a family of all the jelf brother
and the great grand fathers family of sons together poseing out side in jamica row and as jayne as not got the questions that she needed
as her mother never gave her all her knowledge about the back ground of the jelfs like my mother was really amist the lot of them all the time where jane and her mother i will be giving her all the bits of the jig saw as wel
w ; i lok forer to metng you all at the key hill meet have a nice day , best wishes alan ; Astonian
 
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There is a marriage on 26th September 1885 St Andrews ,Bordesley between
Mary Ann Hughes and George William Jelfs
 
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Good morning alberta
many thanks for that valuable information i have just logged it down and i will be sending off for it
emediately this morning and i will get a copy of it for jaynews whom i am meeting in brum next week nd i will give her a copy
just in case she has not got one ; alberta you are a true star ;to me and the forum ;
i just cannot beleive how these last few days have panned out for me on this forum after years of being on here and the help i have received
and the time spent researching the family and spending time traveling all over the country and the cost ; it a sheer bliss
and as it now is almost over for me with my mother family research i can only thank each and every one for there genourousity of time
from each other member whom have given me there valuable time i am hoping that shortly i will get to meet each and every one of you all
at any other future meeting the forum will have ; have a great day best wishes alan ; Astonian
 
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1891 William Henry Street,Bordesley,Nechells.

George Jelfs age 26 Gun barrel borer
Mary Ann age 23
George age 3
Henry age 6 months


1901 William Henry Street.

Mary ann Jelfs , age 33,Head but her status is married (where is George?)
George 13
Henry charles 11
Arthur 8
John 6
Ernest 3
William 8 months
There is a young woman (indexed Lynn Bruton) age 23 sister,the original writing bears no resemblance to this name,so i will try to figure out who she is
 
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HI Alberta;
i very much appreciate this extra bit of listing you have given me its one part i do not have and i would be extremely grateful
if you could come up with this lady in the jelfs as far as we know there was only one sister and that was the jelf brothers sister
and that was miss ivy jelf and she never ever got married so it would be of great intrest to me and to jayne to discuss
next wednesday on our meeting in birmingham she will be bringing me alot of photograph the picture she said on the last thread about trying to down load a pic of all i think which she said she could not get clear was out side there jamica row shop [ coffee shop and the ajoining shop was her moms the banna ovens which was not clear but she as got a hard copy i beleive she told me she will bring them as well
in the old forum magerzine in which year it was produced i do not knowwhich jayne is trying to produce the caption when it was taken for some reason i supect it stated in there the editor stated it was the famous jelfs coffee shops and with some of there friends
and at the back in the bunch there looks like alot of a couple of men of importants when i seen the story on george jelf profile on google
and his high ranking postion he held in the country here was a guy in there whom appears in the picture in jamica row smoking a pipe and it looks like the same guy whom wrote about georges postion in the trade unons ship i think is name was a george stevenson he had a pipe on there
i may be wrong but he may have been a big noise when george and a friend was involved with the set of birmingham city bush house days
as he and a friend was highly involved along with freda cocks i do not know he full extent until i can track down the old brum magerzine and its story to read with it and how it came about but the old senior george himself was a big flyer on the circuits of justistices
when i tryed afew years back to track is paper work i was questioed to what i know about him from the high commissioner in london
as he was part of the crown services they sent me limited paper work and they said it would never come out of the valts again
so he was a big noise as you probaly knowif you tap into google you will learn almost things about him same aplies to william jelf is son raymond if you log into ray jelf oxford councillor you will see his profile ray was educated at the aston king edwards or the holte as it was called then
he wanted to follow the family trait of the society where they was all grand master of the druids ;but by the time he was of age they had closed down
the lodges he even went to the same church st lennords to get married and moved to oxford where our ancester came from and the early days of the jelfs from glocestershire which later became worcestshire and made a succesful bussiness carrerr and now is another goverment officier
my mom out of all the jelfs kids had a private education from the age of four until she was old enoughto work where upon the others never did
her mother had her in the private section as she was wealthy when my mother had her first daughter her mother put oldest sister in london to a private school for education we never knew we had a sister until she home on holiday to aston thats when we learnt of her but it was grand mother whom was paying the fees because my mother was there only child so she put mymom in one
any way alberta ; sorry for waffling on the way i do as you all know but please if you should find out about this lady please let us know
many thanks alberta ; alan
 
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