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jelf george
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Lloyd
master brummie
Re: george jelf
According to https://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action
he sailed from Southampton in 1929 for Halifax, Canada.
It also shows Una M Jelf, born 1923, also sailed from Southampton to Halifax, but in 1947.
According to https://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action
he sailed from Southampton in 1929 for Halifax, Canada.
It also shows Una M Jelf, born 1923, also sailed from Southampton to Halifax, but in 1947.
bren
master brummie
Re: george jelf
Hi Astonian
I searched for the birth of the Una that Lloyd has posted, 1915 to 1930, found nothing, perhaps she was born overseas and had come back for a visit ???.
Anyhow, whilst looking i also found these, don't know if you already have them but they are all Jelf mmn Allsopp --
Lillian 2nd qtr 1915 Birmingham 6d 552
Charles W 3rd qtr 1917 Aston 6d 899
Leslie G 2nd qtr 1920 Aston 6d 1217
Norman 1st qtr 1921 Birmingham N 6d 614
Irene I 2nd qtr 1925 Birmingham N 6d 926
Dorothy M 3rd qtr 1929 Birmingham N 6d 833
bren
Hi Astonian
I searched for the birth of the Una that Lloyd has posted, 1915 to 1930, found nothing, perhaps she was born overseas and had come back for a visit ???.
Anyhow, whilst looking i also found these, don't know if you already have them but they are all Jelf mmn Allsopp --
Lillian 2nd qtr 1915 Birmingham 6d 552
Charles W 3rd qtr 1917 Aston 6d 899
Leslie G 2nd qtr 1920 Aston 6d 1217
Norman 1st qtr 1921 Birmingham N 6d 614
Irene I 2nd qtr 1925 Birmingham N 6d 926
Dorothy M 3rd qtr 1929 Birmingham N 6d 833
bren
claire-brum71
master brummie
Re: george jelf
Marriages Sep Quarter Aston 1912
Lily Allsopp - George Jelf
Marriages Sep Quarter Aston 1912
Lily Allsopp - George Jelf
Re: george jelf
Hi Lencoop
Yes This Is Young George Jelf The Shop Steward At Lucas,s WhomCreated A Strike There ,During Those Years ,And The Chairman At One Time Of The AEW Union I Beleive The Senior George Jelf Was The Son Of William Jelf Whom Had Alot Of Coffee Shops In And Around Aston, This George Jelf The Son Whom Is Still Alive At The Age Of Ninety Used To Stand For Elections In Small Heath B,ham In The Earlie Years
Right Up Until The Late Sixty,s Befor Retiring , George Was My Mothers First Cousin
George Jelf [ Him self Told ME hOW He Defected From The Jelfs Family When He Came Back From Canada And Got Marrid He Had Nothink To Do With The Jelfs Famly
And Never Got Involved With Any Of Them ,But He Did Say He Remembers My Father Moving Into No I New Cannal St, Digbeth With My Mother And Grand father And Grand Mother, Ernie Jelf And Victoria Hinton And Because They Had Ansells Brewery Delivering Daily And There Wealth He Said My Father Was A Gold Digger And A Boozer
He Said He Remembers HimFor His Boozing And The Rest Of The Jelfs Did,nt Like HIm
So AnyWay This Is The George You Have Found Len ,Many Thanks Astonian ,;;
Hi Lencoop
Yes This Is Young George Jelf The Shop Steward At Lucas,s WhomCreated A Strike There ,During Those Years ,And The Chairman At One Time Of The AEW Union I Beleive The Senior George Jelf Was The Son Of William Jelf Whom Had Alot Of Coffee Shops In And Around Aston, This George Jelf The Son Whom Is Still Alive At The Age Of Ninety Used To Stand For Elections In Small Heath B,ham In The Earlie Years
Right Up Until The Late Sixty,s Befor Retiring , George Was My Mothers First Cousin
George Jelf [ Him self Told ME hOW He Defected From The Jelfs Family When He Came Back From Canada And Got Marrid He Had Nothink To Do With The Jelfs Famly
And Never Got Involved With Any Of Them ,But He Did Say He Remembers My Father Moving Into No I New Cannal St, Digbeth With My Mother And Grand father And Grand Mother, Ernie Jelf And Victoria Hinton And Because They Had Ansells Brewery Delivering Daily And There Wealth He Said My Father Was A Gold Digger And A Boozer
He Said He Remembers HimFor His Boozing And The Rest Of The Jelfs Did,nt Like HIm
So AnyWay This Is The George You Have Found Len ,Many Thanks Astonian ,;;
lencops
gone but not forgotten
Re: george jelf
Astonian, I worked at Shaftmoor Lane 1961 to 1990 and was a AEU Shopsteward for part of those years, there was`nt much support for the strike because George drove his car at one of the Fireman/Security men who had asked him to move his car as it was blocking a car park exit, he was sacked and later remployed, it happened at Great King St. Len.
Astonian, I worked at Shaftmoor Lane 1961 to 1990 and was a AEU Shopsteward for part of those years, there was`nt much support for the strike because George drove his car at one of the Fireman/Security men who had asked him to move his car as it was blocking a car park exit, he was sacked and later remployed, it happened at Great King St. Len.
Re: george jelf
HI LEN
Many Thanks For Your Reply And For The Valud InformationYou Have Given ME
This Is All Knew To Myself About This Incident ,I Know That There Is Alot Of History On
George On Google And Al Is Back Ground , And HimAnother Guy Formed The Commism
Party And They Started FromA Book Shop In Moselley Village And How The Jelfs Got In volved With The Old City Council And Got Postionens With In The Council
And Got Contracts In Supplying ,What I Remember From My Grand father And His Brothers They Was Aggorrant People From Worc ,And AS I Now Myself Live In Worcester And Eversham Where They Come From I Can Understand Thats How People Are Like Now,So I Can Only Presume George When George Was Young He Must Have Been Arogant As Well , When He Was Young And Single He Went To Live In Canada ,
And As I Have Previously Said All The Jelfs And Because Of There POSTIONEDS
Were Conservitives George Came Back As A Commi,And Thats Why They Dis OWNED Him This Is The Real Story I Have Leart From A Very Senior Jelf Whom Is A Goverment Officier And Not The Version He As Previously Told Me When I Tracked Him DownIn B,ham 3.YEARS Ago There Is Alot About The Jelfs On Google Raymond Jelf And George Jelf And Co , Once Again Len Many Thanks For Your Info I Will Check The News Cuttings For Any Story Line On This One And I Will Come Back To You . ASTONIAN ,;;;;
HI LEN
Many Thanks For Your Reply And For The Valud InformationYou Have Given ME
This Is All Knew To Myself About This Incident ,I Know That There Is Alot Of History On
George On Google And Al Is Back Ground , And HimAnother Guy Formed The Commism
Party And They Started FromA Book Shop In Moselley Village And How The Jelfs Got In volved With The Old City Council And Got Postionens With In The Council
And Got Contracts In Supplying ,What I Remember From My Grand father And His Brothers They Was Aggorrant People From Worc ,And AS I Now Myself Live In Worcester And Eversham Where They Come From I Can Understand Thats How People Are Like Now,So I Can Only Presume George When George Was Young He Must Have Been Arogant As Well , When He Was Young And Single He Went To Live In Canada ,
And As I Have Previously Said All The Jelfs And Because Of There POSTIONEDS
Were Conservitives George Came Back As A Commi,And Thats Why They Dis OWNED Him This Is The Real Story I Have Leart From A Very Senior Jelf Whom Is A Goverment Officier And Not The Version He As Previously Told Me When I Tracked Him DownIn B,ham 3.YEARS Ago There Is Alot About The Jelfs On Google Raymond Jelf And George Jelf And Co , Once Again Len Many Thanks For Your Info I Will Check The News Cuttings For Any Story Line On This One And I Will Come Back To You . ASTONIAN ,;;;;
Lloyd
master brummie
Re: george jelf
Is this him then, from https://www.grahamstevenson.me.uk/archives/000087.html
George Jelf Born in 1913, George Jelf was an engineering worker who lived and worked all his life in Birmingham. A vigorous and almost successful local election candidate, he was also the prospective Communist Candidate for the Small Heath (Birmingham) Parliamentary Constituency. It was often joked in the late 1960s that he was so successful in campaigning in Small Heath on housing matters, re-housing many of his voters in the then newly developing area of Chelmsley Wood, that he assiduously undermined his own vote every year!
A member of the AEU from 1937, he held many official positions within his union. For many years, until the late 1970s, he was the Chairman of the Birmingham City Committee of the Communist Party and a member of the Midlands District Committee.
In retirement, he was the chair and chief organiser of what had been the Clarion Communist Camp, a camping seaside holiday site in Talybont, Mid-wales. Under Jim Crump, Birmingham Communists had been organising this from the end of the war; by the late 1970s, the camp's ties were very much looser.
Is this him then, from https://www.grahamstevenson.me.uk/archives/000087.html
George Jelf Born in 1913, George Jelf was an engineering worker who lived and worked all his life in Birmingham. A vigorous and almost successful local election candidate, he was also the prospective Communist Candidate for the Small Heath (Birmingham) Parliamentary Constituency. It was often joked in the late 1960s that he was so successful in campaigning in Small Heath on housing matters, re-housing many of his voters in the then newly developing area of Chelmsley Wood, that he assiduously undermined his own vote every year!
A member of the AEU from 1937, he held many official positions within his union. For many years, until the late 1970s, he was the Chairman of the Birmingham City Committee of the Communist Party and a member of the Midlands District Committee.
In retirement, he was the chair and chief organiser of what had been the Clarion Communist Camp, a camping seaside holiday site in Talybont, Mid-wales. Under Jim Crump, Birmingham Communists had been organising this from the end of the war; by the late 1970s, the camp's ties were very much looser.
Re: george jelf
HI LLOYED
Yes This Is The Young George Jelf We re On About, I Have Met And Spoken To Him Personaly And He Actualy Confirmed To Me That He Worked At Lucas,s And
Created A Strike , And It Was His Father Whom Eventualy Owned Most Of The Tea Rooms In Aston CROSS His Father Was Also Named George And HIs Grand Father Was William George Whom Gave His Father A Couple Of The Shops On The Cross
Along With Henry -Jelf The Second Eldest Son , This Is A True Fact I Have Got All There Wills Of The Great Grand Fathers And The Great Grand Mothers With All There
Names On , Every One Of The Sons And The One Daughter And Al The Grand Children Got Well Provided For By The Grand Father And The Grand Mother ,When They
Evenualy Died ,Eventualy It Was Ernest Jelf The Fallander Whom At The End Of The Day That Landed The Most Successful Bussiness And All There Shops Eventualy Came To Him I Use The Word Fallanderer Because He Was A Womaniser As He Got Oder In Life He Got Worse With These Women , And He Started To Sell Off All The Shops
Just To Keep UpHis Life Style He Was Used To Change Is Car Every 12 Months And KeepThese Women And Travel Around The Globe With Billy Cotton And WEE Georgie Wood With My Grand Mother Victoria Hinton
But Then She Died And Thats When He Started To Sell The Bussinesses
His Main Companion Was A Mrs Robinson FromPark Lane She Was A Long Standing Friend And Companion And Always At His Side My Mother Used To Hate And Curse Her And She Blamed Her For His Down Fall At The End Of The Jelfs Empire Of 33 Shops
It Was There Sister Whom Became The Richest In Finacancual Terms
Out Of The Family Because She Accumultd The Wealth From Both Parents A Very
Substanceual Amount Of Money PLUS She Ended Up With All The Brothers Shops One By One When They Died And She Kept The Father And Mothers Shop
Right Up Until She Died And Then At The End Of Her Life She Became Ill And Went Into Hospital And Died She Kept Her ShopOf The Parents The Way Her Parents Had Kept It Never Decorated Or Nothink Right Up Till The Day She Died But She Ended Up A Very Wealthy LAdy , Snd She Never Got Marrid She Had A Companion By The Name Of Albert LLOYED Whom Sefriended Her And Ripped Her Off And He Spent Most Of The Jelfs Wealth Before Skidalling Back To Liverpool I Was Told That He Had Died Before Ivy , But Then I Have Since Leart That It Was False Because Some ody Had Aurtherised The Sum Of 100 Pounds To AlbertLLOYED In1984 From Her Will To An Address In Liverpool Which I Am Working On Now ,
Have A Nice Day LLOYED , Best Wishes ASTONIAN ,;;;
HI LLOYED
Yes This Is The Young George Jelf We re On About, I Have Met And Spoken To Him Personaly And He Actualy Confirmed To Me That He Worked At Lucas,s And
Created A Strike , And It Was His Father Whom Eventualy Owned Most Of The Tea Rooms In Aston CROSS His Father Was Also Named George And HIs Grand Father Was William George Whom Gave His Father A Couple Of The Shops On The Cross
Along With Henry -Jelf The Second Eldest Son , This Is A True Fact I Have Got All There Wills Of The Great Grand Fathers And The Great Grand Mothers With All There
Names On , Every One Of The Sons And The One Daughter And Al The Grand Children Got Well Provided For By The Grand Father And The Grand Mother ,When They
Evenualy Died ,Eventualy It Was Ernest Jelf The Fallander Whom At The End Of The Day That Landed The Most Successful Bussiness And All There Shops Eventualy Came To Him I Use The Word Fallanderer Because He Was A Womaniser As He Got Oder In Life He Got Worse With These Women , And He Started To Sell Off All The Shops
Just To Keep UpHis Life Style He Was Used To Change Is Car Every 12 Months And KeepThese Women And Travel Around The Globe With Billy Cotton And WEE Georgie Wood With My Grand Mother Victoria Hinton
But Then She Died And Thats When He Started To Sell The Bussinesses
His Main Companion Was A Mrs Robinson FromPark Lane She Was A Long Standing Friend And Companion And Always At His Side My Mother Used To Hate And Curse Her And She Blamed Her For His Down Fall At The End Of The Jelfs Empire Of 33 Shops
It Was There Sister Whom Became The Richest In Finacancual Terms
Out Of The Family Because She Accumultd The Wealth From Both Parents A Very
Substanceual Amount Of Money PLUS She Ended Up With All The Brothers Shops One By One When They Died And She Kept The Father And Mothers Shop
Right Up Until She Died And Then At The End Of Her Life She Became Ill And Went Into Hospital And Died She Kept Her ShopOf The Parents The Way Her Parents Had Kept It Never Decorated Or Nothink Right Up Till The Day She Died But She Ended Up A Very Wealthy LAdy , Snd She Never Got Marrid She Had A Companion By The Name Of Albert LLOYED Whom Sefriended Her And Ripped Her Off And He Spent Most Of The Jelfs Wealth Before Skidalling Back To Liverpool I Was Told That He Had Died Before Ivy , But Then I Have Since Leart That It Was False Because Some ody Had Aurtherised The Sum Of 100 Pounds To AlbertLLOYED In1984 From Her Will To An Address In Liverpool Which I Am Working On Now ,
Have A Nice Day LLOYED , Best Wishes ASTONIAN ,;;;