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Irish Roots

brumgum

Proud to be a Brummie!
I discovered recently on the 1861 census that my Gt Gt Grandparents were from Limerick and Cork. Does anyone know if there were records kept of people coming into England from Ireland?. In addition to this i can't find any info on any Irish census, anyone know any good Irish sites?,

Brumgum.
 
Hi

just tried one of the sites mentioned. It seems you
are in the World of the great Famine. My Irish folks
arrived here at est in 1850.
Without mt Nephew Wesley who spent a fortune locating
his Grand Father and my Great Grand Fathers Family its
a pretty hopeless task.
Most of the Family history unless you are in Full Irish
Family is lost in the Blarney stone.
Romantic views are taken of them not the severe
harshness of London Prentice Street.
My original Irish Families have not yet been completed unfortunately
the records just state Ireland as their Birthplace. If you are lucky
then on the 1851 census you may get their town or City. say Galway.
If not then its the 32 counties to look up. The complexity of
North v South say his wife could come from Antrim and he is from
Cork. It will cost a fortune to look up in my case many names.
Unfortunately you may be Lucky and have an uncommon Irish Surname.
Any way I have the pricess less Marriage Certificate from my Irish
Ancestor from 1853 from St Chads in Birmingham. How Wesely got it
was a miracle but clearly covers one side of the 4 Irish Families.
Remember most of the Irish families married within their Communites.
So a host of Irish ladies will appear within your Family structure.
Im currently part Moran part Fallen part McCann and still searching
for another.
This Web site is a fantastic spelling test. Has the spell checker
losts its way


Mike Jenks
 
Hi to this posting :) Just to say Good Luck to Brum Gum, its difficult tracing Irish roots,
So its also to say an Extremeley Well Done to Mike Jenks & terrific Nephew Wesley
for their combined efforts & successes in building their excellent "Tree",

A notation too for Birminghams own St Chads Cathedral Archives,,
one of the very best in the Country, :) regards JohnY
 
I agree with Mike. It is a very expensive business trying to research your Irish Roots. I have been dipping in and out of mine for nearly 20 years now, with very little found. There is more coming online now, but when I started I paid for baptism information from one of the Heritage Centres that they have in Ireland.

My 2 x gt.grandparents are from Donegal and Dublin. It was my Donegal ancestor that I had some information for from the Heritage Centre. I visited Ireland and made prior arrangements with the Cannon of the Church in St Johnstown to look at the church, and look at the registers which he held. I didn't find out any more than I knew but it was brilliant to be able to look at these old books and the places where my ancestor lived. Basically it was part of an old farm in the middle of nowhere!!

My other 2 x gt.grandparents are also from Ireland (and they also lived in London Prentice Street). I know that one was from Roscommon as it was on the census - but where!!? My 2 x gt.grandfather, Michael Gilmartin, just gave Ireland on the census. But I think it may have been Roscommon or Sligo as that is where there is most concentration of the surname Gilmartin/Kilmartin.

Most of the Irish records were burned in the fire at the Four Courts in 1922, so it is pretty difficult to find anything. Perhaps a trip to PRONI at Belfast is my next project. However for you at the other end of Ireland perhaps you should contact the Limerick Heritage Centre for a quote (not cheap) and to see what they hold.

The Limerick Archives, The Granary, Michael Street, Limerick.

This site has good information and addresses:
https://www.kinsella.org/genealogy/research/intsearc.htm

Good luck.

Judy
 
Thanks for these replys, i do have an unusual surname and i only know of our family with the name in Brum. On the 1861 census they were very young in their early twenties with a baby a few months old who was my Gt Grandfather. I must admit i got a tingle down my spine when i saw the census and have been on this quest ever since. I've also spoke with others on different forums with my name abroad and they all seem to originate around Limerick, thanks all for taking the time to reply,

Brumgum.
 
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