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Help Identifying School These Medals Were Presented By.

Phil

Gone, but not forgotten.
I've been asked on another forum to identify the school that these medals were presented by. So far nothing concrete has been presented as a solution other than it could possibly have been The Suffolk Street Municipal Technical School later to become Birmingham Central Technical College.

What we can't seem to marry up with that idea is the initials on the front of the one medal we cant even agree if they read SCS or CSS.

Any information that might help, or if somebody has the name of the school if indeed it was a school, if not then what organisation was it that presented them?
 

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Central Grammar School was also known as Central Secondary School.
Other possibilities (but be worth checking out their school emblems first):
St Chads School
Sparkhill Commecial School
Viv
 
Fattorini & Co have been contacted and apparently are unable to help as F Fattorini & Co closed some years back and it is now T Fattorini & Co. Everything else that has been suggested has also been said including the Central Secondary School suggestion and arm coronet and hammer design being the school logo which is all gratefully received, but I was looking for something more positive, such as a personal memory of a relative who may have received such a medal or evidence from whence they came.
 
My husband who went to Central Grammar School says that the badge inside the laurel wreath is the same as the school badge. He was not aware the school was ever Central Secondary school as it was built as Central grammar in the 1850s.
 
Hi Janice, it's actually a bit confusing the way it's written up in the British History online description (below). It seems to be linked through technical education but all contained under the Central Grammar School heading. Very confusing. And strange that CSS should have the same emblem as CGS. Can't make this out. Viv.

CENTRAL GRAMMAR SCHOOL FOR BOYS, Suffolk Street (1897–c. 1939); Burbidge Rd. (c. 1944– 1955); Gressel Lane, Tile Cross (1957). Municipal Technical Day Sch. opened 1897 by Birm. C.B.C., for B only, in buildings described as 'nothing short of a technical palace'. Central Secondary Sch. at first formed part of the technical school but later became a separate sch. though shared same building until c. 1939. Reopened after or towards end of war in 'a former senior school' in Burbidge Rd. (ex. inf. M. of Ed.). Temporarily accommodated in Cherrywood Rd. Transferred 1957 to newly-built premises at Gressel Lane, Tile Cross. As late as 1919 it had a bias towards science and engineering. N.o.b. 1914: 284, 1937: 400 (ex inf. M. of Ed.), 1961: 565.(28) Fees £3 a year; by 1937 £12. In 1911 c. 84 per cent. pupils came from elementary schools, in 1937 'almost all'. Average leaving age 1910–13: 15½ yrs., 1953: 16–17 (ex inf. M. of Ed.).
 
This is my husband's athletics colours from CGS. (Can't find his blazer badge at the moment!). Apart from the "A" the rest matches the badge on the medal. I am not sure abut the letters.
 

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Following a different tack - looking for the SCS. I think it might have been Council Secondary Schools hence the badge (the top of the coat of arms). I was browsing Kelly's when I realised that the council run schools came under that heading and wondered if it might be medals awarded for an inter school competition. The form II referring to an age group. Any comments?
 

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An article in the Birmingham Gazette of Monday 29th May 1933 tells us about the Annual Secondary schools Sports Day. I have copied the report and High Jump but it ony gives schools not individuals.
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Interesting Janice. Following your lead, I found this report for Central Seconday School annual sports day dated April 1933 - could this be it ? Specifically mentions the 220 yds record being broken and the high jump results. Shall try and produce a better copy Viv. Edit - have attached more legible copies of the lists below so that pupil's names are clearer. Viv.

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Brilliant - looks as if it was Central Secondary Schools. So I was close. They must have run a competition for individuals (the April one) and for teams (the one I found).
 
Next question then, does the owner of the medals recognise any of the names:

Long jump - J.M Brooks (seniors)

220 yards - F.R Chatwin (seniors). Medal may not be for a senior pupil as "Form II" could refer to the lower school so might be a junior runner
R.A Haynes (juniors) ?

Viv.
 
The instigator of this inquiry has asked me to thank everybody on his behalf for their help. I have reported what has been said here and copied a couple of the images, as he had more or less came to the same conclusion (with a little help ) we are of a mind that what has been said here must be factual.

Viv, I don't think he knows anybody concerned with the medals, it's just that he came across them and wanted to find out more about them.
 
I've been asked on another forum to identify the school that these medals were presented by. So far nothing concrete has been presented as a solution other than it could possibly have been The Suffolk Street Municipal Technical School later to become Birmingham Central Technical College.

What we can't seem to marry up with that idea is the initials on the front of the one medal we cant even agree if they read SCS or CSS.

Any information that might help, or if somebody has the name of the school if indeed it was a school, if not then what organisation was it that presented them?
Just out of curiosity I looked up the hallmark
Fattorini & Son Ltd
Kirkgate & Westgate, Bradford
Hallmark is Birmingham 1926
 
The instigator of this inquiry has asked me to thank everybody on his behalf for their help. I have reported what has been said here and copied a couple of the images, as he had more or less came to the same conclusion (with a little help ) we are of a mind that what has been said here must be factual.

Viv, I don't think he knows anybody concerned with the medals, it's just that he came across them and wanted to find out more about them.
Further to the identity of the recipient of the medals I have been making a few enquiries with Birmingham Education Dept. who have obviously passed my letter on to the Library of Birmingham.
Yesterday I received a reply from the Library which stated that they do hold records of the school (Ref.no. MS2639) they are governed by the 100 year disclosure to members of the public.
However they do hold copies of the school magazine named The Hammer (Ref. L48.34) with coverage from 1905 - 1973 which are held on floor 4 and can be viewed without an appointment from 11 am to 5 pm daily.

As I live in County Durham I am unable to visit the library in person. If anyone is visiting the library I wonder if it would be possible that they could have a search through these magazines from the years 1927 to 1933 to see if there is any relevant information regarding the recipient, All I have is the name J.Brooks.
Thanking you in advance, Jim
 
jmadone

Thank you for your continued interest and this latest addition to this thread. With your permission I will copy your post to the forum concerned and see if the OP continues to have an interest, although he hasn't posted since last year.
 
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