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donapr
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Hi looking for information on my great uncle j w hartland, think he might have been a undertaker.
In harbourne area.
In harbourne area.
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Re: john w hartland 1895
The only undertaker listed in Harborne in the 1896 Kellys (which actually refers to 1895) is Thomas Bramich Millward, 17 Bull St ,Harborne. There is no undertaker named Hartland, and the only John Hartlands listed in the commercial section are a furniture remover in Bath row and a John Francis Hartland, architect and surveyor, 11 Martineau st. possibly he worked for Millwards
mike
The only undertaker listed in Harborne in the 1896 Kellys (which actually refers to 1895) is Thomas Bramich Millward, 17 Bull St ,Harborne. There is no undertaker named Hartland, and the only John Hartlands listed in the commercial section are a furniture remover in Bath row and a John Francis Hartland, architect and surveyor, 11 Martineau st. possibly he worked for Millwards
mike
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donapr
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Re: john w hartland 1895
Hello,Thanks for reply...quite exciting....John F Hartland was my Great Grand father, & Father to john W Hartland.
Could you let me know what the list says for John F Hartland Architect!
I know he was a architect but been unable to find more information.
THANKS mike
Hello,Thanks for reply...quite exciting....John F Hartland was my Great Grand father, & Father to john W Hartland.
Could you let me know what the list says for John F Hartland Architect!
I know he was a architect but been unable to find more information.
THANKS mike
Re: john w hartland 1895
Not much more available. In 1896 no 11 Martineau st was occupied by 6 firms, so it wasn't an enormous office. He was no longer there in 1904 kellys (that is really 1903). He was there in 1892, but not in 1888 kellys. In 1896 he was also listed (I assume it's the same one) in the "court" section of the directory. This is like a private address section, but probably only included those doing very well for themselves. He was no longer listed privately in 1904, and was not listed privately in 1888 or 1892. There are several other Hartlands listed in the commercial sections if any other christian names have an interest. Hartland seems to have possibly come from the black country, as there are a number of them in the 1880 and 1904 directories (mainly from tipton or wolverhampton areas), including a couple of johns and one . Heywood Hartwood, who was an alderman in west Bromwich.
hope this is of interest.
mike
Not much more available. In 1896 no 11 Martineau st was occupied by 6 firms, so it wasn't an enormous office. He was no longer there in 1904 kellys (that is really 1903). He was there in 1892, but not in 1888 kellys. In 1896 he was also listed (I assume it's the same one) in the "court" section of the directory. This is like a private address section, but probably only included those doing very well for themselves. He was no longer listed privately in 1904, and was not listed privately in 1888 or 1892. There are several other Hartlands listed in the commercial sections if any other christian names have an interest. Hartland seems to have possibly come from the black country, as there are a number of them in the 1880 and 1904 directories (mainly from tipton or wolverhampton areas), including a couple of johns and one . Heywood Hartwood, who was an alderman in west Bromwich.
hope this is of interest.
mike
Lloyd
master brummie
Re: john w hartland 1895
Electoral rolls give a few Hartlands, In 1912 John Francis Hartland was in Station Road Harborne (sorry no number given), whilst in 1920 John Wilson Hartland, John Francis Hartland, Arthur Horatio Hartland, Francis Victor Hartland, and Julia Hartland were at 12 Emerson Road Harborne. 1925 sees the following Hartlands at the same address: John Wilson; Julia; Francis Victor; Robert; and Leslie Cecil.
In 1930 John Wilson and Emma are at 7 Picton Grove Sparkhill, but in 1935 and 1939 they are at 23 Beech Avenue Harborne
Electoral rolls give a few Hartlands, In 1912 John Francis Hartland was in Station Road Harborne (sorry no number given), whilst in 1920 John Wilson Hartland, John Francis Hartland, Arthur Horatio Hartland, Francis Victor Hartland, and Julia Hartland were at 12 Emerson Road Harborne. 1925 sees the following Hartlands at the same address: John Wilson; Julia; Francis Victor; Robert; and Leslie Cecil.
In 1930 John Wilson and Emma are at 7 Picton Grove Sparkhill, but in 1935 and 1939 they are at 23 Beech Avenue Harborne
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donapr
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Re: john w hartland 1895
Hi Mike,Thanks so much for the info.
My Hartlands are from Shropshire Owestery and seem's that a number of John F brother's, were also architect..surveyors. or clerks.
I know John F did rather well for a time, but then something went very wrong. Which came to a climax in 1920 with him taking his own life, at Harbourne station. & then 6 weeks after that Aruther died from his injuries from WW1.
Hi Mike,Thanks so much for the info.
My Hartlands are from Shropshire Owestery and seem's that a number of John F brother's, were also architect..surveyors. or clerks.
I know John F did rather well for a time, but then something went very wrong. Which came to a climax in 1920 with him taking his own life, at Harbourne station. & then 6 weeks after that Aruther died from his injuries from WW1.
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donapr
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Re: john w hartland 1895
Lloyd thanks so much for info on John W Hartland. I have been trying to find out more about him for a while, I assumed he had married but know no more.
By 1925 both J F hartland (Father) & Aruther (Son) had passed away.
Lloyd thanks so much for info on John W Hartland.
I have been trying to find out more about him for a while, I assumed he had married but know no more.By 1925 both J F hartland (Father) & Aruther (Son) had passed away.
Di.Poppitt
GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
Re: john w hartland 1895
In 1871 John Hartland 26 his wife Margaret 23 were still in Oswestry, living in Beatrice Street with their children Martha 3 and John 1. John is a Bricksetter and says he was born in Gloucester, Forthampton
In the 50's there was a firm of estate agents in the area of Harborne named Hartland and Tydd, I went out a couple of times with John Tydd.
In 1871 John Hartland 26 his wife Margaret 23 were still in Oswestry, living in Beatrice Street with their children Martha 3 and John 1. John is a Bricksetter and says he was born in Gloucester, Forthampton
In the 50's there was a firm of estate agents in the area of Harborne named Hartland and Tydd, I went out a couple of times with John Tydd.
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Di.Poppitt
GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
Re: john w hartland 1895
Here is John and his family in Gloucestershire in 1861, they were all born in Forthampton, and John senior is also a bricklayer
Name John Hartland Age:17
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1844
Relation:Son
Father's Name:John
Mother's Name:Anne
Gender:Male
Where born:Forthampton, Gloucestershire,
Civil Parish:Forthampton
Ecclesiastical parish:Gloucester and Bristol County Gloucestershire
Street address: Church Cottage
Occupation:Bricklayer
Registration district:Tewkesbury
Sub registration district Deerhurst
Household Members:
Name Age
Anne Hartland 54
John Hartland 51
John Hartland 17
Robert Hartland 7
Samuel Hartland 10
Here is John and his family in Gloucestershire in 1861, they were all born in Forthampton, and John senior is also a bricklayer
Name John Hartland Age:17
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1844
Relation:Son
Father's Name:John
Mother's Name:Anne
Gender:Male
Where born:Forthampton, Gloucestershire,
Civil Parish:Forthampton
Ecclesiastical parish:Gloucester and Bristol County Gloucestershire
Street address: Church Cottage
Occupation:Bricklayer
Registration district:Tewkesbury
Sub registration district Deerhurst
Household Members:
Name Age
Anne Hartland 54
John Hartland 51
John Hartland 17
Robert Hartland 7
Samuel Hartland 10
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donapr
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Re: john w hartland 1895
Hello, This John Hartland is my great great grand father,father to John Francis hartland Architect Who is the father to John Wilson hartland my great uncle.
Who I learnt today was married to a Emma Worrall in 1926...had daughter Mary in 1929.
Do you recall first names of the Hartland estate agents????
Hello,
This John Hartland is my great great grand father,father to John Francis hartland Architect Who is the father to John Wilson hartland my great uncle.Who I learnt today was married to a Emma Worrall in 1926...had daughter Mary in 1929.
Do you recall first names of the Hartland estate agents????
Re: john w hartland 1895
In 1956 the firm in harborne was Hartland (C.W), Tidd & Co . 139 high Street. In the 1950 directory they were not there, but there was a Charles Harold Hartland, estate agent, at 80, Metchley Lane, which is not that far away, but not central like the high st.
mike
In 1956 the firm in harborne was Hartland (C.W), Tidd & Co . 139 high Street. In the 1950 directory they were not there, but there was a Charles Harold Hartland, estate agent, at 80, Metchley Lane, which is not that far away, but not central like the high st.
mike
Di.Poppitt
GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
Re: john w hartland 1895
Thanks Mike for confirming the Estate Agents, it was another life time ago but some things do stay in the memory.
My name was Worrall before I became a Poppitt and I suspect that Emma Worrall could possibly be one of my relatives, but my Gt Grandfather and Gt Gt Grandfather had 15 sons between them and I have not researched them all.
Thanks Mike for confirming the Estate Agents, it was another life time ago but some things do stay in the memory.
My name was Worrall before I became a Poppitt
and I suspect that Emma Worrall could possibly be one of my relatives, but my Gt Grandfather and Gt Gt Grandfather had 15 sons between them and I have not researched them all.