rogerwoods
proper brummie kid
Looking for any details about this company, in particular James Henry Hinton. Any details about Hinton Manufacturing Jewellers would be appreciated.
Many thanks.
Roger
Many thanks.
Roger
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Harlow and Hinton, Gilt Chain Makers, 122 Great Barr Street, Birmingham
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rogerwoods
proper brummie kid
Harlow and Hilton about 1888. Hinton Manufacturing Jewellers 1930's.
I can find no mention of either firm in the online newspapers (though obviously that is only the ones which are online).
With regard to Harlow & Hinton:
There is no mention of the Firm in the 1884 directory, though there is a Lewis Harlow, working jeweller, at 37 Branston St, and a Thomas Hinton, spoon & fork maker at 48 Northwood St. However Thomas is also listed in 1888 and 1890.
In 1888 the address is Barr St, not Great Barr St
It should be noted that the numbering of Barr St was changed between the 1884 and 1888 directories. In 1884 122½ would have been a part of number 56, which is not listed
1888 Harlow & Hinton , gilt chain makers, 122½ Barr St
1890. Harlow & Hinton have disappeared and 122½ is not listed
Hinton Manufacturing jewellers does not appear in the Birmingham directories for 1932,1933,1936,1937,1938,1939 or 1940, though it may appear in directories outside Birmingham
In passing there is in the 1932 directory, but not in later ones Henry Hinton , metal chain maker, 107½Carver St
Below is a map from the 1880s showing where 122 Barr St was in red. Do not know which was 122a .
With regard to Harlow & Hinton:
There is no mention of the Firm in the 1884 directory, though there is a Lewis Harlow, working jeweller, at 37 Branston St, and a Thomas Hinton, spoon & fork maker at 48 Northwood St. However Thomas is also listed in 1888 and 1890.
In 1888 the address is Barr St, not Great Barr St
It should be noted that the numbering of Barr St was changed between the 1884 and 1888 directories. In 1884 122½ would have been a part of number 56, which is not listed
1888 Harlow & Hinton , gilt chain makers, 122½ Barr St
1890. Harlow & Hinton have disappeared and 122½ is not listed
Hinton Manufacturing jewellers does not appear in the Birmingham directories for 1932,1933,1936,1937,1938,1939 or 1940, though it may appear in directories outside Birmingham
In passing there is in the 1932 directory, but not in later ones Henry Hinton , metal chain maker, 107½Carver St
Below is a map from the 1880s showing where 122 Barr St was in red. Do not know which was 122a .
rogerwoods
proper brummie kid
Mikejee, many thanks for your detailed search and quick reply. You struck gold with the 1932 directory as the address matches the 1921 census data. James Henry Hinton dies in 1935 which is why the entry disappeared. Is it possible to see who took over the workshop at Carver Street after 1935? I’m trying to find who took over the business as his two eldest sons were killed in WW1 and the daughters married out of the jewellery profession.
Regards
Roger
Regards
Roger
It can be seen below that the building was occupied by three small businesses, and that another chain maker was not far away. In the 1933 and 1936 directories 107½ is not listed at all. Edward Clarke is still listed and might have taken over any business (just a supposition). It should be noted that the date of the directory is the publication date and might refer to the year before. The 1930 online electoral rolls list James Henry Hinton as at back 107 for the business, but naming his abode as 122 Selwyn road.
The map below from th 1880s shows no 107 in red. The electoral rolls show two houses behind it in court 29, which would be the two in blue. Therefore 107a can reasonably ber assumed to be the building in green
The map below from th 1880s shows no 107 in red. The electoral rolls show two houses behind it in court 29, which would be the two in blue. Therefore 107a can reasonably ber assumed to be the building in green
To add to that, in 1930 only Henry was listed there, but in 1920, 1922 and 1925 there was also Sarah Hinton (abode 122 Selwyn Road) and Harry Leopold and Eliza Jane Morris (abode 12 Colonial Road) and Alfred Cope (abode 111 New Spring St. In 1920 it is described a sa workshop
The 1921 Kellys lists the address as this:
Which shows that they were separate businesses, sharing a building.
Henry is at that address as a metal chain maker from the 1913 Kellys. Before that he is at that address listed as a fancy albert maker from the 1892 edition. He is not listed in the 1890 edition, but does have a reference, which I had missed , in the 1888 edition which says "See Harlow & Hinton", which nicely links the two firms
Which shows that they were separate businesses, sharing a building.
Henry is at that address as a metal chain maker from the 1913 Kellys. Before that he is at that address listed as a fancy albert maker from the 1892 edition. He is not listed in the 1890 edition, but does have a reference, which I had missed , in the 1888 edition which says "See Harlow & Hinton", which nicely links the two firms
rogerwoods
proper brummie kid
Mikejee. Many thanks again for your detailed research - these directories are a treasure trove! I had expected the Hinton Jewellery business to be larger. James Henry was an employer (there are job adds - now I know his place of work), had a servant and lived in a nice location. He was also well connected. His eldest daughter married a direct descendent of Solomon Cutler (Pearce and Cutler) and the other daughters married into other prominent families. I would be interested in your view. Could you help on a couple of other points?
James Henry Hinton died at 116 Oakfield Road, Cannon Hill in 1935. Do the directories show who was living there at this time?
Also, from about 1900 he lived at 21 Selwyn Road, Edgbaston but from 1916 the address was 122 Selwyn Road. In the 1921 Census map which goes up to 1913 it shows Selwyn Road as one sided, opposite Summerfield Park, and only going down to the railway line. Today Selwyn Road extends to Rotton Park Road and 21 Selwyn Road is a 1940's style semi. Are you aware that Selwyn Road was renumbered meaning that 21 and 122 are the same property?
Thanks once again for your help.
Regards.
Roger
James Henry Hinton died at 116 Oakfield Road, Cannon Hill in 1935. Do the directories show who was living there at this time?
Also, from about 1900 he lived at 21 Selwyn Road, Edgbaston but from 1916 the address was 122 Selwyn Road. In the 1921 Census map which goes up to 1913 it shows Selwyn Road as one sided, opposite Summerfield Park, and only going down to the railway line. Today Selwyn Road extends to Rotton Park Road and 21 Selwyn Road is a 1940's style semi. Are you aware that Selwyn Road was renumbered meaning that 21 and 122 are the same property?
Thanks once again for your help.
Regards.
Roger
rogerwoods
proper brummie kid
Many thanks - looks like a rest home!