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Green Albert Edward looking for....

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anybody who knew or is related to Albert Edward Green. from Aston

He was born on 21st June 1902 - he was born- 197 Victoria Road/Street Aston

he married Ellen C Collis in 1925ish

died 13 January 1972 at Basingstoke Hospital, Basing Road, Basingstoke.



His parents were Frederick & Helen Green
siblings were Frederick, Alice Grace and Charles Leslie.

in 1911 living at Bk 100 William Street, Aston



This is a long shot hes the one person we are having problems locating out of all the siblings.

Kind Regards

Aston:)
 
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Aston
According to the electoral roll, Frederick & Helen were living with Albert Edward at 6 Grove Terrace, Lennox St in 1920. In 1925 they are still there, but Frederick Thomas Henry is also listed (remember only those old enough to vote were included).
In 1930 they are no longer at this address. Frederick & Helen do not seem to be living together in Birmingham and there are 17 Albert Edward Greens on the register in Birmingham
mike
 
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I found 4, all Albert Edward Green

4th qtr 1900 Aston 6d 348
3rd qtr 1902 Aston 6d 450
3rd qtr 1902 Aston 6d 427
4th qtr 1902 Birmingham 6d 159



It was after 1918 that men over 21yrs of age could register on the E-Roll

bren
 
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If he was born Sept 1902, he'd be one of the middle two that Bren lists above. You need to see the certificates (or order whichever one has [whoever] as father and {whoever} as mother) to be certain which. If you know the parents why not get all four checked out? At the most only one will be right.
 
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Another birth, just to confuse --

Frederick Thomas H Green 4th qtr 1900 Aston 6d 415


bren
 
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The only other one i could find was the 2nd qtr 1890 for Albert Edward


bren
 
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Here is the 1901 Census

Name:Frederick Green
Age:5 months
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1900
Relation:Son
Father's Name:Frederick
Mother's Name:Helen
Gender:Male
Where born:Aston, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish:Aston Manor
Ecclesiastical parish:Aston by Birmingham St Peter and St Paul County/Island:Warwickshire Country:England
Street Address: Potters Hill, Court 7, No4 House

Registration district:Aston
Sub-registration district:Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel:31
Household schedule number:100
Household Members:NameAge
Frederick Green22 Plumber Journeyman, b Aston
Helen Green22 b Leamington
Frederick Green5 months Aston

So no sign of Albert, if he was born 1902 this explains that, but he should not appear on the 1920 electoral roll as he was too young as was Fred also, he correctly shows up on the later E Roll. I just wonder if the Albert on the 1920 Roll is the brother of Fred snr, could be that 1890 birth i found, he just happened to give his son born 1902 the same name


bren
 
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Just looked on the 1891 Census for Fred and Albert as sibling, no luck so looks like that theory is out the window LOL


bren
 
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wow ive never come back to so many replies, thanks everyone much appreciated.

Bren - Yes frederick thomas henry was Albert Edwards brother i have FTH birth cert and photo of his war grave, (along with the other siblings) its just Edward i know nothing of, I can order a copy of the birth certificate, i just hope that some descendant of his will eventually get to read this forum (should there be any of course.....)

They wouldnt be on the 1930 ER Mike, she died in 1928 and he died a year later in 1929.

Thanks
 
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would someone be kind enough to post the link up for electoral roles please?
 
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thanks ever so much Bren.

Albert Edward would of had to be born between May 1902 and March 1903 which would make him 8 at the time of the 1911 census.
Can you ring up the records office and ask them to check which ones out of a few would relate so you dont get the wrong certificate sent?


(21 JUNE 1902 he was born ive had confirmation)
 
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Thanks Bren, ive currently got the city council doing a search for me so when i hear back from them i may mention alberts birth certificate, saying that though im not sure what the birth certificate will tell me that i dont already know apart from his actual birthdate im more wanting marriage (if there was one) or a death certificate.

What tips can you give me regarding a marriage when you havent a clue about the dates or spouses surname ? again do you just give the registry office his fathers details and hope you get a match that way? theres just so many albert edwards :D
 
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Aston34 said:
Hi

Could someone offer me some advice please when trying to find a marriage when you are very limited on information?

All i know is that my Gt Uncle was born in Sept 1902, i havent a clue as to the date of the marriage (or a spouse) im basically starting from scratch.
I dont know where to start and ordering every marriage certificate for an Albert Edward Green from 1925 onwards sounds an expensive way of finding out. do the electoral roles give you the ages of people?? or just names of people in the household, if so i could work out his age and that may narrow my search down

Is there any shortcuts or websites you could direct me to which may help me out in my search.

many thanks

Aston
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Hi Aston, Something that has worked for me several times, is to put the names of person you are seeking the information for, go for about their 23rd birthday + or - a couple of years. Most of the people in the earlier years seem to have wanted to get away from home fairly quickly after 21 years. If you are lucky enough to come up trumps with your uncle. You
have the district/volumn nos and dates. You can then enter what details you have to the other partners search. Best of luck, George
 
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Thanks George,

first off i got his certificate and he was actually born 21 June 1902 so that is for definate.

I've tried the 25ish plus 10 years eitherside and i get a stack of albert edwards in birmingham !!

I'm just wondering if thats my only option ...... writing down all the reference numbers and then doing a reference check with GRO.

I suppose i could put in his fathers name as thats on the marriage certificate but if theres any other albert edwards with the father called frederick im still none the wiser. I'm thinking im at one of them brick walls and theres no way further i can go with this one, I just wondered if you experts on the forum could give me a tip i hadnt actually thought of
:)

Thanks !

Aston
 
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Hi Aston34

Albert appears to have left the family home between 1925-30 so, IF he married in that period, there are only 4 possibles. 3 of those were reg'd in B'ham S and the 4th in B'ham N. That's the one I'd be looking at first although they were living in Camp Lane Sandwell 1930-39 which raises doubt.

Albert E Green m. Elsie D Burrows 3q 1929 ref 6d 1045
 
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thanks icarus, ill have to google sandwell have not heard that name before. thats the thing with marriages though whats to say he did marry between 1925-1930, his other 2 brothers both married in 1936 perhaps he was the same thats a heck of a lot of searching, its going to be a slow process i know.


george was right patience .......... :D

Aston :-)
 
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Hiya Aston34. I've got an Albert Howard Green, Marrying my Grt Aunt, Rose Hannah Haycock, 21st June 1915. at St Pauls, Lozells. Albert, age 23, Butcher, 29 Hingeston street, Father, Walter Henry Green. Plumber. 1901 Census. 43Crt 2H Farm street. Walter Henry Green, age 33 Art Metal Worker, Born Aldershot.
Julia Elizabeth Green, age 30, born B'ham.
Albert Howard Green, age 8, born Guildford street. Edwin Green, age 3 born Farm street.

1881 Census. 121, Tower road, Aston.
Sarah A Green, Head, age 36, born B'ham.
Charlotte E Green, Daug, age 18, born, London, Westminster. Blind.
James Green, age 16, born, B'ham.
Walter Henry Green, age 13, born Aldershot.
Emily H Green, age 9, born B'ham.
Arthur E. H. Green. age 6, born Hong kong, Brit Subject, China.
George E. Green. age 3, born Hong Kong.

I think the Aldershot connection, means some sort of Military background, Judging by some of the places of births with some of these children. I thought maybe your Green!! family might have had some sort of similar origins.
Regards, Reg.
 
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Thanks Reg,

i dont recognise any of the names sorry.

details updated now on post number 1. as we now have the correct birth and death certificate

I just hope that someone will google his/or his wifes name and find this thread and get in touch.

Kind thanks to everyone that tried to help me out in this search
 
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Just looked on Ancestry and the marriage for Albert and Ellen has been entered twice, exactly the same, but in different qtrs :rolleyes:

Albert Edward Green/Ellen C Collis 3rd qtr 1925 Basingstoke 2c 644


bren

Have just looked at the images for both, the 4th qtr marriage does not exist so it is the 3rd qtr you want
 
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Couple of births for you --

Joan M Green 1st qtr 1926 Basingstoke 2c 355

Leslie W Green 3rd qtr 1932 Basingstoke 2c 375


Mothers Maiden Name = Collis

bren
 
Hi,

I believe that you are related to me. My nan's name was Rose Hannah Haycock who according to your message was your great aunt. My name is Chris and my mum was Rose and Albert's only child before he was killed in the First World War. Her name was Violet Rose green before she married. Please get in touch.
Thanks
 
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