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Grave R86 Keyhill cemetery

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gizmo

knowlegable brummie
Hi
I finally got round to finding where my Great great grandfather Thomas Dyas of 117 Bacchus Road was buried after he died in October 1901. Through the BMSGH search service i found he was buried at Keyhill and that there was 2 people in the grave. I naturally thought of his wife or one of the kids or family. Upon reciept of the details i find he is buried with someone i've not come across at all. As far as i have traced it's not any of his childrens husbands names.

Henry Singleton aged 65 of 26 All Saints Road was buried 20 Feburary 1901

Henry was buried only 8 months before my great great grandfather Thomas was buried there also in grave R86. According to the information in the 1980's when the source was transcribed their was a monumental inscription for both men. I would be interested to know if that was still there or any kind of a grave left if anyone was in that area and wouldnt mind looking, but more importantly i would like to know more on how i could start to find out who Henry was and how he ended up buried with Thomas.
Any theories or suggestions on where to begin would be very appreciated.

Thanks Tracy
 
Tracy
All being well I will probably be going to Key Hill this weekend so I could have a look for you. Some of the Friends of Key Hill post on this site and their knowledge of the graves is excellent (they helped me find my family graves). I expect they will reply to you soon.
Polly
 
Thankyou pollypops thats really kind. It has taken me 3 years to get this far. I try and find something new every now and then when funds allow but it always leads to more questions and confusion. Travelling to Birmingham for information is hard for me to do, i have only been there once and i couldn't read fast enough to find what i needed. I do go to Worcester history centre/Astwood cemetery once a month or so though if i can return your kindness and help someone. :)
Thanks Tracy
 
There could be a few reasons why this man is buried in your gt gt grandfather's grave. I have a stranger in our family grave. One of the conditions at Key Hill was that if a memorial stone was not purchased from the cemetery in the first 12 months of the grave being purchased. The right to exclusive burial was forfeited. Sometimes if a later burial took place this family could purchase a headstone even though initially it was someone else's plot. I suppose it was all about money. This may explain the reason. But that was not always the case so it still may be worth investigating. The memorial inscriptions for Key Hill Cemetery have just been completed and contain some taken before 1960. I have asked for help on your request so watch this space.

Here is a map so you have an idea where the grave is.:)
 
Hello Gismo

This section of the cemetery has had some research done on it by Barry Crighton for the open day in 2008 here is the info






R 86
Good old Dad

In memory of Thomas DYAS who passed away October 7th 1901 aged 70 years. “Good old Dad – he died as he lived – peacefully.”





A touching and unusual epitaph.

A brassfounder by trade, Thomas Dyas was born in Birmingham in about 1830. We think he married Eleanor (Ellen) Green in 1852. Ellen was born in Shrewsbury in about 1830. Ellen was a japanner.

In 1861, Thomas and Ellen were living in Tower Street with their six children: Alfred, 11, William, 9, Thomas, 7, Sarah, 5, Edward, 3, and Ellen, 1. Later arrivals, Harry, 11 and Louisa, 3, were recorded in the census of 1871.

We think mother Ellen died in 1882. We can find no record of her burial in Key Hill, leaving Thomas the sole occupant of this grave, despite leaving a large number of descendants.

Shortly before his death, Thomas was living alone at 149, Bacchus Road, next to the Grapes Inn. His son, Edward, a cycle brazier, was living nearby at 117, Bacchus Road with his wife, Annie, and five children. (This may be the Annie Dyas who is buried at plot R 1016)

The Birmingham Mail of 10th October 1901 reported Thomas’s death: “DYAS, on the 7th inst, very suddenly, at Bacchus Road, Soho, Thomas Dyas age 70.”.



Date of interment

Running No.

No. of Grave.

Depth Feet.

Name of Deceased.

Parents’ name, Relative or principal Connexion.

Last Residence.

Age.

Disorder

Officiating Minister’s

Signature

12 Oct 1901

43756

R 86



DYAS Thomas



73 Harborne Road

35 (sic)

MANNING E. H.
 
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Hi again Tracy it seems that the information on Henry Singleton being buried in R 86 may be a clerical error. His inscription is on grave no R83. I tend to beleive stone more than paper.:)
 
Thankyou so so much wendy. I feel really emotional to actually see his headstone/grave and for it to contain such a lovely tribute. I'm really greatful you cleared up who Henry was so quickly for me, i don't know why it bothered me so much to think he was there buried with someone else when i know the cemetry is full of both strangers and family all around.

Thomas's death certificate gives the cause of death as UNKNOWN

Thomas was married to Ellen (Eleanor) for nearly 30 years. I have her death as 31st December 1882 of Bronchitis. Edward their son was in attendence. I don't know where she is buried but the address was Bacchus road also.

His son Edward was married to Annie Maria and according to the BMSGH burial register it is her buried in 1016R with her daughter Ellen Louisa Simpson. Edward died in 1905 but i dont know the cause or where he is buried.

Today i feel i have taken a big step forward and i can't thank you enough for helping me there :457:
 
Tracy I am so please the mystery has been sorted out. I have thanked Barry on your behalf for supplying the photo and info. You must come and visit the cemetery it is lovely.:)
 
Hi Wendy

I would love to visit there one day, it looks a nice cemetry. I read the posts on here and admire the vast knowledge and comitment to looking after the past it holds. I know you and many others work extremely hard to look after it. I would like to thank you all, i think you are all truely wonderful.
Tracy
 
Tracy I only do background work the real workers are in the cemetery on a daily basis. It is a team and we all have our own things that we do. If you want to keep in touch and help out join the Friends Of Key Hill and Warstone Lane you will get a news letter to keep you informed of whats happening. Have a look at the website here:

https://www.friendsofkeyhillcemetery.org.uk/
 
Tracy,
How lovely that Wendy was able to help you so quickly. I understand how emotional you must of been when you saw the picture - it's a bit overwhelming isn't it! I am so happy you got a good result.
Polly
 
ooh - I love surprises :)- Thank you Wendy for all the information you have found for me on my family graves. This forum and Key hill are very lucky to have you on their teams.:grinsmile:
Polly
 
George Coley, Grave 47737.

The last resting place of my Great Grandfather, George Coley, Key Hill Cemetery. No date of burial is given in the index. But the entry for George comes near the end of 1909.

The entry reads:- 47737 Coley, George 750 2. The index doesn't explain the meaning of the reference numbers. Can anyone pinpoint this grave for me please. Reg, Cookie55.
 
Reg I'll get back to you. I think it should read grave number 750 section S:)
 
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Thanks Wendy. Your explanation of the reference number, gets me a bit closer to finding his grave. I think you've just planted a bulb and spread some light on it for me.:D Reg.
 
Reg I have a lot of info for you can you send me your email address in an IM. Then I can send you the info.:)
 
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